I want to talk

There are a few people here whose opinions I really value. I also have a situation that I really want to talk about. I’m trying to guide one of my adult kids, one I have talked about here before. My entire family and most of my friends keep track of her and her career. She also has a fan base that googles her relentlessly. I dont want to be advised about what she should do regarding this situation. What I would like is some creative ideas about the way I can approach her so she can see the opportunities in front of her. Basically, she has taken one situation off the table entirely, and I want her to reconsider.

What ever she decides to do will be rewarding, personally and financially. There is one way she can go that will seal an incredible future. I need her to see this, but I want her to recognize it for herself and make her own decision. I dont want to use key words that would lead anyone to this thread. She is a very intelligent person, but she is also 23 years old, and sometimes lets her emotions take the lead over her brains.

This might not even be possible to do. I’ve laid some groundwork, and she respects my opinions. What do you guys think? Can I change the names and occupations, and countries to keep prying eyes off a public board?

SDMB is super high on Google rankings. Maybe you should just pm the people whose opinions you value about the situation. Unless you are 100% positive that you and your daughter’s RL identities aren’t identifiable by your past posts… even then, the internet never forgets.

Thanks, yes you are right. She and I are quite identifiable by my past posts.

You are one of the people whose opinions I value by the way. You are also a woman, and I assume you were 23 once as well.

Wow, I thought you were dead.

I thought You’d be taller.

I am taller.

Anyway, you could always write up a brief synopsis of the situation and have people PM you if they want to read it. They could then respond with their thoughts. If you’re looking for specific people’s opinions, I’d say you should just PM them and ask if they’d be willing to give input on your situation.

Yes, I think that’s the route I’m going to take. It was probably stupid to even bring it up here, but I have been kind of out of the loop with my friends and aquaintences for the last couple years. I like how a group can come up with ideas that had never occurred to me. I’m taking it slow, and trying to avoid coming off as an authority figure telling her what to do.

Well, I am sure I am not someone that you will be PMing, but as a fellow father I will throw my 2 cents out there for the hell of it.

First off, congratulations on raising such a successful child. I will respect your wishes to be circumspect, so I will limit my comments in that regard.

The key to your situation is to remember what you wrote: “What ever she decides to do will be rewarding, personally and financially.” Of course that is not 100% true, anyone can make a series of bad choices that spirals them out of control from a seemingly bright future, but I am sure that your child’s future is as potentially bright as you say. I have no reason to dispute that.

She is intelligent, as you say. For whatever reason, she has opted not to pursue whatever opportunity it is that you say will “seal an incredible future.” (I hope you recognize that that is not completely true, either. It may be an opportunity that could potentially lead to an incredible future, but nothing is guaranteed.) Trust her to be smart, then, and make the decision that is ultimately right for her. She knows her own needs, desires, ambitions and abilities better than anyone, even you.

You say she is 23 almost as if that means she is too young to make this decision (which she has already made). Although 23 seems very young from where you and I are standing, it is not too young to be trusted to be making the decision that is right for her. Even if she is “emotional,” unless you feel she is engaged in some actually self-destructive behavior, which would be a whole different situation, being an emotional being is part of who she is and while that may play a larger role in her decision making process than you want, it is part of her.

You wrote that you “need” her to recognize that the course of action you want her to take is the best one, while at the same time you want her to recognize it for herself and make her own decision. I hope you will examine why you “need” her to do it. If it was just a turn of phrase that doesn’t really reflect your feelings, that is great. If, however, it truly reflects a situation where it will be upsetting to you if she doesn’t change her mind, then I would like to emphasize that she needs to make her own choices and carve her own path in life.

As parents, one problem we sometimes have is we still remember all the stupid decisions our kids made when they were much younger…and it therefore can be hard to trust them make their own decisions even after they have become mature, accomplished young adults. I am sure your daughter has not accomplished what she has with a lack of self-discipline, dedication, ambition, determination, and good judgement.

Really, even if this opportunity is as blindingly fantastic as you make it seem, at most you should briefly summarize for her how you perceive the opportunity to be so good for her, in as nonjudgemental a fashion as possible, but also indicate that you acknowledge the validity of her reasons for her decision and in the end you trust her judgement, are very proud of her, and know that whatever she does will be the best thing for her. And if she maintains the same decision, then that is it, you should drop it and accept her choice.

Keep remembering: “What ever she decides to do will be rewarding, personally and financially.” What more could a parent hope for? Congratulations on helping her get into that position.

Good luck to both of you.

Does she have an agent or manager? Or is she managing herself? My advice would be to treat her as an adult, not your kid. Approach her with wanting to have a business meeting, and offer her advice, that she’s free to take or disregard, as it’s her life. Don’t make the discussion emotional, think about the short term and long term risks and benefits of the decision. And let her make the decision.

:eek: Hey cool! You can PM me if you want. I’m 28 now, which I’m led to believe means I was 23 at one time. :slight_smile:

Wait, I’m 27 now. What the hell.

It just took me about 20 minutes to figure out who your daughter is. So watch out.

Wow, you’re not kidding. That was an easy find and I don’t even know you. :eek:

What you need is an alias. Call her Lilith and what she does Spelunking and talk about it like that. Also she lives on Pluto.

I wish you luck. I remember being 23 and thinking I knew it all. And anyone older than me trying to give me advice? Bah, what do they know?!

Yeah, I wasnt trying to hide anything. I just didnt want the subject matter, team names, or anything that would send random searchers to this thread.

And is 4’8".

Yeah and at 4’8" she really stands out among the Plutonians.

Honestly, at no time since I turned 18, and probably not before then, have my parents – very intelligent, educated, and well meaning people – given me advice that was better than my own counsel except in very general matters like “go to the dentist regularly” or other things that apply to everyone.

I don’t think I know it all. I think I know what’s best for ME. And what’s best for my dad or mom is not necessarily what’s best for me - we are three totally different people, who have lived extremely different lives.

I have never once regretted ignoring their advice after giving it serious consideration.