I like Kid Rock too… and Yanni.
Actually, thats is probably the most reasonable part of the whole film.
I’d bet good money that drilling by “feel” can be more of an art more than a science.
Its easier to teach basic science to artists than it is to instill a sense of art in scientist.
And I say that as someone who identifies far more with the science end of the spectrum.
As much as I admire astronauts, I’d say its much, much harder to become an astronaut than it is to BE one.
Once you get past the “ohh shitt we could die any moment” aspect of it, and you aren’t manually FLYING the darn spacecraft, IMHO space flight itself aint no biggy.
And count me as one, that although it had many rolly eye moments, that generally enjoyed the show.
The same goes for “Space Cowboys”?..the one with the malfuntioning USSR satelllite of doom.
Hair/stadium rock. Def Leppard sound good. Who cares if they each use more conditioner than Jennifer Aniston?
Hell, 80s music in general. I quite like synth pop and movie soundtracks containing saxophones, thank you.
Brussels Sprouts. They are a nice vegetable to enjoy at Christmas time. I don’t buy that all of the majority of people that despise them actually dislike the taste, nowhere near it.
Hogwash.
Me, too. I never really got the hate for him. The guy’s a freaking genius, as far as I am concerned (though he’s definitely not flawless). A lot of his earlier stuff is pretty mundane (and utilizes the synth way too heavily), but once he brought in the London Philharmonic to juice up his catalogue, and then performed it underneath the Parthenon, he truly broke out as an artist, IMHO. Just about everything he’s done since then has been awesome.
I saw him in concert many years ago and was absolutely blown away. The crowd was the most diverse crowd I have ever seen at a concert. There were young people, old people, teenagers, children, hippies, squares, you name it. But for the fact that his banter with the audience was pretty inane, it was a perfect concert. I would easily pay $100 to see him in concert again.
Why hogwash? As was said, they’re not flying the shuttle. Their “training” was little more than getting them used to working in a zero gravity environment. Reverse the roles and it still requires the same amount of training and same amount of dumb luck to get astronauts capable of using oil drilling equipment at that skill level.
I’m no fan of either, but I’d probably have a Kinkade painting on my wall before a Warhol.
Hillary Clinton.
I love Olive Garden and Armageddon. Fuck anyone who has a problem with that.
(If this were the Pit, that is… but it’s not, so nevermind)
My wife and I like the Daredevil movie. Yes, the one with Ben Affleck. Actually, it’s great. There, I said it.
We love Chilis. Like the thread says, I had no idea there was hate for them. For the price, they are the best chain restaurant.
We really loved Hancock, too. Especially the first half. I’m not sure if that movie is quite hated, but we’re surprised just how little “acclaim” it got.
Why? It’s actually pretty simple. For one thing, they are from New Jersey, and jokes about New Jersey being a crappy place are deeply ingrained in American humor, so anything associated with NJ becomes ridiculous by association. Largely because of their ties to NJ, their fans are perceived as being tacky/trashy people (not that I’m saying those who like them really are tacky or trashy, but that’s what it is often viewed as). Finally, the band achieved its peak in the 1980s, an era that is often ridiculed for its bad taste in music, clothes, hairstyles, another reason they become ridiculous by association.
There was a Triumph The Insult Comic Dog bit ridiculing a Bon Jovi concert that came out a few years ago, which probably inspired a lot of people to make fun of Bon Jovi that might not otherwise have done so.
As for Nickelback, I personally feel that the fact they tried to pass off the same song as two different ones (“Someday” and “How You Remind Me”) is reason enough to dislike them more than the average rock band. However, if it hadn’t been for that, I’d agree that a lot of their songs are catchy (even though not very deep or artistic).
Oh, and Olive Garden is awesome. I know it’s not authentic or an exquisite fine dining experience, but I don’t care because it’s freaking delicious.
Or it could be because all their songs are just really, really awful. But no, you’re right, it’s because we just can’t tolerate music that’s popular.:rolleyes:
The SDMB is the only place I’ve ever seen people express a particular dislike for Sarah Jessica Parker. As far as I can tell, she is hated by some for daring to be in the public eye despite not being conventionally beautiful. It enrages them that a woman they find unattractive is on magazine covers, on television, and even in movies. I remember a poster here specifically saying he hated how she’s shoved in people’s faces as as a beauty icon when he found her hideous. But to the best of my knowledge Sarah Jessica Parker has never been promoted as a classic beauty, but rather as a woman who is stylish. It’s about her clothes, not her face.
I don’t have any particular interest in Sarah Jessica Parker and her style is definitely not for me, but it is disturbing to see such vicious things said about a woman just because people don’t think she’s pretty.
“How You Remind Me” is a great American rock/pop song and I don’t care what you think of me for saying that. So they tried to follow up a great song with other songs that sound like the same thing? Tons of people have done that - I understand the temptation. (I also really like “Leader of Men”, which 99.X used to play ages ago before anybody heard of Nickelback.)
I take it you’ve never been to Fark?
I don’t get the hate on France. Yeah, the English don’t like them either, but they at least got a couple hundred years of intense rivalry going on.
This was the quote:
The implication is a continuation of the meme that scientists are uncreative non-thinking automatons. Most scientists I know, also excell in creative ventures. Scientific discovery requires creativity. The only people that think that scientists can’t be competent with art are completely ignorant about how the scientific process works. Science is an art.
Oh, and I never got the memo that I was supposed to dislike the third Star Trek movie (Search for Spock). The hate seemed to come retroactively after everyone decided the even numbered movies were all good and the odd ones were all bad. I think it is easily the best of the odd numbered movies.
You misintrepting my point in two ways…
First, there are DIFFERENT kinds of creativity. Yes, the guys in lab coats are creative in there own way. On type is no better than the other.
The kind of “art” I am refererring to is the “working mans” kind. As in drillers turned astronauts versus astronauts turned drillers.
If the important part of the mission is drilling (and making the assumption that drilling in space is remotely related), it makes perfect sense to me to take very experience drillers along for the ride, rather than giving astronauts a few weeks training oh how to drill.
If there is a job your recognized as being good at and having done it for decades, there is just no way you are going to be able to train somebody else be as good as you in a a few weeks. Heck, years might be enough time. Then there is the off chance that the person you are training, for whatever reason, just doesn’t have what it takes to be even remotely good at the task, no matter how hard they try.
Any job has plenty of fundamentals that are just rules, rules of thumb, basic facts, engineering…
But, there is plenty of “art” in how all that is combined. IMHO you really can’t teach that. You just learn it by doing it for years.
Oh, and the Russian hitckhiker made the whole movie as far as I was concerned.
I think billfish678’s point can be summed up that it’s easier to teach drillers not to puke than it is to teach astronauts to drill.