If Donald Trump is involved in ordering a hit on Yovanavitch, that's certainly impeachable right?

Over 16 in Alabama.

In related news, Hyde’s home has been visited by the FBI. He seems to be going with “we were just playing around.”

“I was drunk, Your Honor!” is a helluva defense.

I am fairly, no, make that 100% sure, of at least two things: that Trump was not involved in authorizing a hit on the ambassador, and that if he had been and evidence supported it, the vote would be 100-0 in a Senate impeachment trial to convict him. I know the man is horrible, and some Rep senators along with him, but come on!

Oh, ye of much faith… :wink:

Certainly Parnas should have notified someone if either of those were the case. But as to exonerating Parnas, at this point he doesn’t need it, as no plot to kill the ambassador has been established, to say the least. I’m all for theoretical discussions, but isn’t this jumping the gun quite a bit?

:slight_smile:

But I must say, I’m not basing it on faith. Just common sense, at least to me…

“Come on!” in this case meaning that we know the contours of dts mind, and it’s ok in there?

He is a child. He doesn’t hold to any moral values that we have seen and he is playing with fire around our enemies and treasonous gestures, to see where they lead him, and us. Murder is not minor but not a far cry at all. It is less of a crime really.

dt is widely quoted as saying what’s the big deal about political murder. (Lester Holt?) He hasn’t been quoted on the converse of that statement. So there’s that.

Unless there is actual video of him ordering it in clear, unambiguous language, the Republicans would absolutely let it slide.

And even then I wouldn’t bet my house on them. Hell, I wouldn’t even bet $20.

I cannot quite get to 0% chance. But I think the odds that he directly ordered a hit is likely very small. It is a bit sad that the office of the president has been sullied to the degree that it isn’t 0%. It really ought to be 0%.

I’m going to have to disagree with you there RickJay. Some of the moderate Republicans like Romney or Collins would let it slide. Most of the Republicans would cheer Trump on, and say that she deserved to die. Fox News would smear her.

It would not shock me to know that Trump was part of a plot to have her killed. I mean, she was rushed out of the Country because her safety was threatened, wasn’t she?

Does she really have so many enemies?

“See? Trump didn’t want her to be killed, he just wanted her to think she was going to be killed, so they’d have an excuse to get her out of the country! She should be thanking him for being so concerned about her safety, No more BENGAAAAAAAZHIIIIIIIIISSSSSS! Libtard.”

Yes - this is the sad thing, the thought should really rank up there on the ridiculosity scale with “Obama is a secret muslem born in Kenya” - that it doesn’t really only goes to show what a disaster Trump is

So dt wouldn’t kill someone? He just did, to break in the new (election) year.

Go back to dt and stephanopoulos in the oval office.

He wouldn’t initiate it, but he has got himself some friends who are not him. He would spend lives to stay in office or out of jail. Could anyone doubt that? You know his base are voting for him based on this belief so it might not even matter.

My personal opinion is that Trump wouldn’t have ordered somebody to kill Yovanavitch. Trump gives the impression of being somebody who expects those kinds of things to be handled for him without his having to bother about it. Like how his meals appear in front of him or how his clothes get washed or how the federal budget is prepared. He just assumes some nameless people somewhere are taking care of these things.

Trump only puts his own efforts into important things like summit meetings with dictators, cheating at golf, and posting tweets.

That was only some raghead. They don’t matter; they’re prime targets. Just get the right one. Or if you get the wrong one, claim it was the right one. What a YUGE victory! :cool:

IOW it’s White Privilege on steroids or maybe Self-Proclaimed Zillionaire Privilege. The “little people” are only there to serve and/or pay and/or fellate the Big Man, and they had better instinctively know what’s expected. Do not disappoint The Don.

You omitted stealing his (undocumented) wait-staff’s tips.

Well for some reason Yavonovitch WAS warned by the State Department that she was in danger…told to get her ass on the next flight home in fact. So maybe not Parnas, but somebody with some ethics or conscience caught wind of something.

Also, I strongly suspect Hyde is a nutter, and was MSU.