I'm disappointed in myself

When I do manage to fuck myself, Guano, you can be sure I’ll do it thoroughly. I’d have a bit of trouble with the second part, though. Care to explain?

You seem to have come up short on ‘V’s and you’ve been forced to make some substitutions. Lucky for you, I have plenty and I’m kind enough to share.

VvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVvVv

Enjoy!

Oh! Good! You’ve found your reserve stash. I’ll just take mine back then.

'Tis funny how they flee back to their own kind when hopelessly outmatched. Say hi to the rutabagas for me.

Yeah, no one appreciates GuanoLad’s moral sermonizing, but do you guys ever think you took it to far?

Aren’t our own doubts about ourself and self-criticisms enough to make it through life on?

With a few exceptions, most people seem to side with you Oldscratch, you don’t have to go in for the emotional kill after the thread is over.

Oldie, SHUT THE FUCK UP. You win, ok? Jesus Christ…I’m with threemae. You crossed the line. And honestly, I admire Guanolad…he SAYS what, IMO, a hell of a lot of us THINK. So go take your posse and feel superior to all of us people who lead “pathetic, lonely existences” without drugs, ok? Thanks ever.

Yeah, no one appreciates GuanoLad’s moral sermonizing, but do you guys ever think you took it to far?

Aren’t our own doubts about ourself and self-criticisms enough to make it through life on?

With a few exceptions, most people seem to side with you Oldscratch, you don’t have to go in for the emotional kill after the thread is over.

I would just like to point out one thing here… not to speak for oldscratch, but hey, I know him pretty fucking well so I’ll take the liberty. That and I hate to see misunderstandings go unaddressed.

I don’t believe he’s saying “if you don’t do drugs, you lead a pathetic, lonely life, and I’m superior to you cuz I do.” Case in point. I don’t do drugs. Never smoked pot (swear to God), done E once, done peyote once. I rarely drink. I can count on one hand probably the number of times I’ve been drunk. He doesn’t judge me based on that, or disapprove of my choice, just as I don’t judge him based on the fact that he does those things. His choice. My choice. No prosletysing.

I believe what he was taking exception to was GuanoLad’s debating style, and their basic difference of opinion.

Yeah yeah, big surprise, me defending him. Whoda thunk it?

Jesus, sounded to me like he was taking exception to GuanoLad drawing breath.

Not much to add here. I think the other posters covered this pretty well.

I would, however, like to say that, having participated in approximately 16,420 drug debates on this board over the past 15 months, that Nen refuted Guanolad’s sad little points more succintly and more eloquently than any other post I’ve ever seen on this board. Good show! :slight_smile:

MY BROTHER TRIED TO KILL ME one night after taking 3 “'shrooms”. He was hallucinating something fierce. I’m lucky my body responded with an adrenaline rush or else I might not be here to tell about it.

Now explain to me how mind-altering drugs are good.

I didn’t mean to try and start a debate. What I meant was that I can’t be convinced that “shrooms” are ok, and I never will be.

I meant that it was pointless to debate this stuff, it only gets people mad at each other.

Me too, Lux. Hence my post. :slight_smile:

neutron star, thank you so very much.

::bows::

I think that’s the best non-sexually oriented compliment I’ve ever received on the Dope.

threemae, to what “emotional kill” are you referring.

Lux Fiat, and you too, Falcon, for agreeing with Lux: personally I could care less what my or anyone else’s stance is on using drugs. My problem was, as I said, GuanoLad “exhibited the debating prowess of a rutabaga.” Do I take exception with him drawing a breath, no…just the mindless drivel which spews from his mouth upon exhaling that breath. Maybe your comments were directed soley toward oldscratch. If they were, he can take it up with you himself. If they weren’t, I don’t believe I have crossed any lines, especially in this forum.

c_goat, see above–nary a soul condoned drug use. Refuting a poor argument and refuting an opinion are two very different things. I concur with you. It is not a topic that can be debated. Any moral perspective is entirely subjective.

I’m disappointed in you too, GuanoLad. Sure, I ain’t gonna deny that oldscratch padded his post with the usual unsubstantiated sexual invective. That’s pretty common around here. But since it is so ridiculous, I just can’t understand why you are so hurt by it. If someone I didn’t know from a cow patty accused me, over the internet no less, of some sexual perversion in the context of a normal debate, I don’t think I would be all the upset.

But I am surprised that you are unwilling to go to bat for your opinions. You started the Pit Thread, and waited for the inevitable response from oldscratch and his posse. What did you really think would happen? Did you expect oldscratch to realize the error of his ways and accept the premise that illegal actions are also morally wrong? Now you’ve folded like a six year old who’s been kicked in the nuts, and have gotten the usual half dozen sympathy posts. If you don’t have the cajones to stand by your views after the first assault, what kind of sympathy do you think you deserve?

Come on. Have a little faith in your opinions. Fight ignorance. Let your second testicle descend.

Or at least grow a thicker skin.

Hee… “go to bat”… guano… bat guano… heeheehee.

sigh it’s been one fucking looooooong day when that sends me into fits of giggles. Thanks Maeglin.

And my, scratchie, how your posse has grown. I remember when it was just you and I… aah, the old days. :wink:

Glad you got it, Rasa. :wink:

He may not have gone to bad for his idea, but he sure turned to bat shit over them.

Ever the Humble and Obedient Servant of the Pit,
MR

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Nope. He told me to fuck off and die. I merely commented on the state of his life. If he can’t handle it, he shouldn’t have started a pit thread. If he had apologized for being a dumbass, this thread would be done and closed. Instead he attempted the type of witty remark one would expect from a 12 year old with brain damage, or perhaps George W. Bush.

No, I guess I didn’t need to. Of course GuanoLad doesn’t need to pop into every thread he sees and post the same idiotic comments over and over, yet he feels the need to. I guess it’s all part of his pathetic life. All in all, I’m just having a little fun with him. I’m not even pissed off, or really bothered. If I had been bothered by his personal attacks, I would have posted things much more hurtful.

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Frankly Falcon, I’m a little suprised at you. I in no way said anything really bad to GuanoLad until he barged in with inapropriate comments, in the inaprorpriate forum, followed up again, and then started again in the PIT. He’s been here for over a year, he should no what to expect. Unless he really is that incredibly stupid that he expected me to come in and agree with him, or this to be some kind of ShitBoy love fest. If our loveable LicorichLad had come into a thread in MPSIMS about cutting and posted a comment like “You are a fucking idiot, would everyone stop encouraging this lunatic” and offered no reasonable explanation for his views, you would have no problem with him being taken to task.

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Now now, don’t misunderstand me. I’m not saying that people who do drugs are pathetic or lonely. I’m saying that people who think that drugs are immoral because they are illegal, people who think jay walking and homosexual sex are immoral, people who think freeing slaves is immoral, people who talk about the need to stay away from drugs and have real human interactions, and yet don’t appear to have any (which leads me to believe that they are talking out their ass), that those people are pathetic.

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Well if that breath results in another stupid anti-drug post. Then yes. If it results in GuanoLad taking a deep breath, calming down, and realising that he shouldn’t be imposing his idiotic morality on others…then no.

Damn, a scratchie posse party and no one told me. Guess I’ll take my nipple clamps, my smack and my tiki torch-holding midget and go home.

Hrmph.

NO Nym! Don’t go!
Here… I’ll put out some bumps of K.

And save some smack for me.

c_goat, I just wanted to say about your brother… from what I understand, the way that psilocybin works is that if you’re angry when you trip, you’ll have an angry trip. If you’re sad, sad trip. If you’re happy, happy trip. For this reason, ‘experienced’ users tell you only to trip if you are in a good mood, with nothing weighing on your mind, are (relatively) emotionally stable, and have someone who can keep an eye on you and make sure nothing happens. Just like alcohol.

For me, my trip was ENTIRELY pleasurable, measured, and just an all-around incredibly memorable experience. For your brother, it was obviously not so. Perhaps he was angry or upset about something before he ever ingested the mushrooms, and for his experience, I, personally, would put the majority of the blame on his underlying emotions, and only a small minority of the blame on the drug itself, simply for emphasising what emotions were already there.

I’m glad you’re okay.

–Tim