Was it earlier than that?
It hasn’t yet. But I’m only 32 and plan on living to 126, so there’s time.
Come on, man. I feel like I’ve said this many, many, many times already.
I’ve never denied there were people on the right who didn’t like Obama. I don’t even deny there are people who are racist on the right. But you know as well as I do that there was no coordinated effort against Obama from the right in the way of mass protests or trying to get the election overturned as leftists have done this year.
I’m not playing this selective memory game with you. You must be out of your alternative reality mind to even try this shit. Fuck off.
No, you’re fucking paragons of virtue. :rolleyes:
Worst thing that happened to you in 2008 and 2012 was that you got an intelligent, thoughtful and competent president with whom you disagreed on various policy issues. I can respect being disappointed with that.
What we got in 2016 is an ignorant, unqualified, ill-tempered, morally unfit, intellectually suspect, lying jackass. Imagine the depth of our disappointment.
Yeah, I know. When you run out of fingers, the next number you know is YUUUUGE.
Nonsense. You’re simply saying it’s okay if Republicans do it and not okay if Democrats do it. What was a sustained call for Obama’s “real” birth certificate if not an effort to overturn his election? How many protesters do you need to make a “mass”?
Indeed. Also, there were all sorts of bogus claims of “vote fraud”, clearly directed to the same end of delegitimization.
The amusing thing is that OMG is simply admitting that his side is less effective at public mobilization. (I assume he isn’t masochistic enough to invite the verbal beatdown he’d get if he tried the alternative-fact approach of asserting that conservatives never tried to get people to protest in public.) Maybe it’d be less embarrassing if he let Sean Spicer and Kellyanne Conway do the turnout counts.
The alternative turnout count.
Funny.
Can you find a single post of mine where I ever defended birtherism? Just one. You’d be hard pressed to even find a post of me commenting on it. Until you can do that, kindly refrain from making false accusations of what I’m saying. Kthx.
Now, you guys have never ending moving goalposts. Pardon me if I refuse to play a game of semantics with you, which you love to do. What you’ve seen the last three or so months since the election from the left is unlike anything you’ve ever seen from the right. What makes it even funnier is that, November 7th, it was all about “coming together as Americans” and “accepting the results of the election”. Now, it’s… Well, it ain’t that 
You mean like you just did?
Nobody claimed you ever defended birtherism.
What you said was that “you know as well as I do that there was no coordinated effort against Obama from the right in the way of mass protests or trying to get the election overturned as leftists have done this year,” and Bryan noted that that’s what birtherism was.
Nobody’s asking whether you defended it. But you surely acknowledge it existed. You can either argue that it wasn’t an effort to delegitimize and ideally undo Obama’s election, or admit you were wrong when you said what I just quoted.
I don’t care if you wrote none, one, or thousands. The behaviour you’re criticizing among “leftists” was practiced for years by Republicans, so when you say “But you know as well as I do that there was no coordinated effort against Obama from the right in the way of mass protests or trying to get the election overturned”, you are either lying or astonishingly unaware of recent history.
I’ll gladly accuse you of lying or practicing willful blindness when I see you doing so. Was “birtherism” a sustained effort to overturn Obama’s election, yes or no? Was it “coordinated” (you may want to offer a definition of “coordinated” for this), yes or no? Were there mass anti-Obama protests (again, depending on the definition of “mass”), yes or no?
Bullshit. Next time pick a lie that is harder to casually refute.
Tell Trump to stop tweeting that other Americans are his “enemies” and maybe those goalposts will finally settle down a little.
What’s funnier still is that they insist that all those tighty rightys surged into the urban American carnage wasteland of Washington D.C., what with the roaming gangs of drug addicts and transhomos. Maybe they figured to travel in packs, so that they only lose the stragglers.
Nah, only the Tea Party. Oh, and the obstructionist Congress that said their Number One Goal was to block Obama at every turn. :rolleyes:
I’ll bite. Let’s remind you of your own quote.
Can you find where I said that? Of course you can’t, because you pulled it out of thin air, like you normally do. It’s a complete fabrication-- a lie.
But moving on.
“You’re lying, and I’m going to play semantics to do so!”
No, Bryan. I’m not playing those games with you anymore. I’m sure you can find someone to chase that rabbit, and it’s not going to be me. When your counter point devolves to, “Well, it depends on what you mean by <insert word here>”, you’ve got no real argument.
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You did no such thing. Imagine if I waltzed into a thread and tried to pay semantics. Why, this board would lose their minds!
Right after you remind leftists that “elections have consequences” and “Trump won”.
Are you referencing Mitch McConnell’s 2010 comments, made a full year after Obama triumphantly declared that “elections have consequences” and “he won”?
Asterisk? What asterisk? Clearly the will of the people! Compromise is for losers who don’t get a negative three million mandate. Now you take the country, pick it up and shake it till all the poors fall out, and then drop it on them. Its good for them, it builds character and self-reliance.
It is a leader’s job to unite and lead. It is not the public’s job to follow.
Sounds like he’s not capable.
Sad.
Why would we have to imagine it? We can see it, right here in this very thread.
Demonstrating once more that you are incapable of original thought and the best you’ve got is to re-phrase the cogent arguments posed to you into the delusional word salad you posted above.
This is nothing but your fearless leader’s version of, “NO, YOU ARE!”
Really, why do you bother? It would be far less embarrassing for you if you’d just fuck off.
Well, now I’m curious - is there any reason to demand Obama’s birth certificate if not to challenge his election? Was there a sudden uptick in obsessive-compulsive disorder among Republicans in the last decade who had to be constantly reassured of Obama’s birthplace strictly in the interests of historical accuracy?
Related, I’d given my birthplace as “Montreal” for years, until I took a closer look at my own birth certificate which says I was born in “Lachine” (at the time, a city on the Island of Montreal, separate from the City of Montreal, and currently a borough of the City of Montreal). If centuries from now I’m given the historical awe I’m sure I either currently deserve or will soon, researchers will find contradictory documents. I sure hope it doesn’t retroactively overturn my election as President of Earth and Northern Mars in 2048.
I have made it a point to live in a manner that will ensure confusion for my biographers. 'Cause fuck 'em!
McConnell said it, and Republicans followed through on it. Does ‘Elections have consequences’ mean that the losing party can cause harm to the country just because they’re butt-hurt?