Imus Show Dissing Jill Carroll: WTF???

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I know there’s a bunch of lawyers around here. Is being a “hostage” a positive defense against charges of treason?

Do the words “under duress” mean ANYTHING to you?

How is any of that fucking treason, you mother fucker? Speaking against the government does not mean treason, whether it’s sincere or not.

I’m not a moderator, but I agree with what what **George Kaplin ** said, the moderator in his last post was really being kind with you and he was clearly not moderating after the lines in his last post. **tomndebb ** is only human Updike, but you would never understand that.

While in enemy territory, saying that the enemy is “merciful and kind” and that the American heroes are not, smells like treason to me.

Perhaps what you’re really smelling is your upper lip.

Because I’m not even human, in your eyes, right? That’s nice. Have a nice day, yourself. :dubious:

The law disagrees with you.

She’s not trying to overthrow the government. Even if what she said was sincere (and it fucking WASN’T!), there is nothing inherantly treasonous to say, “The enemy actually treated me just fine. But the US soldiers are committing crimes.” If you can PROVE otherwise, then we can talk.

Again, if someone is under duress, if they are being forced at GUN POINT to make a statement, then most reasonable, intelligent individuals are willing to assume that said person isn’t acting of his or her own free will.

And where did you get your law degree?

Same place you got your’s.

Hey, dumbfuck, you’re the one who’s alleging that a woman committed “treason.” You’re the one that needs to explain yourself legally. Please explain how any of this woman’s actions meet the legal definition of treason. Just to help you out, here it is.

No, she’s just suggesting that you don’t understand it, just like you don’t understand what treason means, how to tie your shoelaces, and lots of other things. Even the idiots who started this war are going to be smart enough to realize what she said wasn’t treason.

Her statements align with “adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort.”

That’s how.

I’m not a lawyer, but I received SERE training of the sort that you would want nothing to do with, and that is in fact a positive defense against charges of treason. The single most important thing is survival, all else is secondary to that, and if the choice is making a statement or dying you make the statement. Period.

Hey asshole, erm, Updike.

Good thing Americans gave John McCain and other soldiers a medal instead of the firing squad even after he and others signed a confession admitting that America was doing war crimes, Unlike you **Updike ** normal Americans knew then that it was a confession obtained under duress.

Even if Doors hadn’t set you straight on this, common sense indicates that being held hostage probably doesn’t count as “adhering” and making statements on pain of death does not count as “aiding.”

Making a statement about how the enemies are good people and the U.S. are not is NOT giving “aid or comfort.” It’s not actively helping them do a goddamned thing, you incoherant cretinous fuckstain.

And since said statements were made UNDER FUCKING THREAT OF DEATH, that goes doubly so.

Good god, you disgust me. Idiots like you are everything that’s wrong with America.

Aiding and giving comfort would entail spying on the U.S., shooting at American soldiers, etc.

Hell, it’s a fact that in the past, the U.S. have committed war crimes against people and waged war (if undeclared) on nations who didn’t deserve it. I guess that makes me a traitor, eh?

If you had a brain, you’d be dangerous.

Wow Updike is scaring me. Terrorist headgear? Uh-oh…someone help, apparently there are a lot of terrrrrsts here! I see them on the street every day walking around like normal people! Red alert, red alert!

Wrong. Nothing said under torture or threat of death is a crime. John McCain signed statements under torture. Everybody breaks under torture. Are you a tough guy, Updik? Are you immune to torture? Do you think you couldn’t be tortured into saying anything your captors wanted you to say? I’ve give odds that a pussy like you would crack in less than a minute.