Way to go, Madison Common Council. You did the right thing a couple of weeks ago when, in voting on a resolution condemning the 9/11 attacks, you replaced the word “prayers” with the word “sympathies.” Of course, it was rather silly for you to be bothering with an anti-terrorism resolution in the first place, like Osama bin Laden’s on the run now because the Madison Common Council voted to condemn blowing up buildings with people in them? But since you insisted on doing it, at least you did it right, removing the religious component from a government-sponsored action.
And you did the right thing again last night, when you refused to re-open debate on the resolution so that the god-fetishists could try to cram the word “prayers” back into it. Now, with any luck, you can get back to the real business of any city council, which as any idiot knows is of course battling alien drug cartels.
Oh, and since this is the Pit, here’s a special “fuck you” to all the weak of faith who can’t make it through a council meeting without trying to shoehorn religion into resolutions where it has no place. if your belief in God can’t survive the council’s not using the word “prayers” in a resolution, it’s a pretty pitiful belief indeed.
Guess I just can’t win for losing. If I object to an act of government, I’m unpatriotic and I hate America. If I support an act of government, I’m an “angry young man.” Does nothing please you people?
You say the resolution is useless since Osama won’t be paying any attention to it. Well, how many of these people from Madison, besides you, are members of SDMB? Aren’t your remarks as useless as you say the resolution is?
Maybe if you had done it without the backhanded praise and being condescending. The way you posted, it seems like you did it just for the express purpose of being able to say you supported a government action and then acting the martyr when you’re criticized.
Jesus. This is your idea of “praise”? You’ve also been kind enough to yourself to use the phrase “support”. I only pray that I don’t need your support or praise one day.
mouthbreather’s first post says it all for me.
Oh, and the prayer is just fuel for your little anger engine. I’m an atheist.
I think I’ve started maybe two Pit threads in the last few days on government issues (three if you count the “Navy fuckwads” thread). In that time I’ve also started threads on about four different TV shows and EZ Squirt ketchup bottles. So what?
Oh please, what a silly objection. Does anyone actually believe that these boards are frequented by the heads of state, the captains of industry, the leaders of the entertainment world that so many threads address?
Demise
I did it in part to express my appreciation for the council, in part to say “fuck you” to the people who made it an issue in the first place and in part to answer the people who’ve decided I “hate America” because I dare to criticise some of the actions various units of its government take.
You help me out matt, are we not supposed to have any reactions when people start threads in the Pit, or not?
If so, should we comment on it, or not?
I’m all for being politically aware and active. Don’t think for one second that’s where my beef is. However, I’ll go out on a limb and say that I don’t think that I am alone in noticing that Otto has been on a kick against <the goverment/the military/religion/patriotism> (take your pick or group any of them for your own fun combination) ever since the events of Sept 11th and I am getting pretty fucking sick of reading about it.
Whats that you’re saying? I don’t like it, I don’t have to read it? Guess what – you don’t like me not liking it, You don’t have to read this. Round and round we go, Wheeeee!
I don’t recall telling him to stop posting. If I did, please show me where. It’s pretty simple though…you sing the same song over and over again, it grows tiresome.
I’ve been listening to ‘Weapon of Choice’ in my car over and over again for weeks and it seems to only get better. Oh wait you meant something else. Sorry…
I echo mouthbreather’s sentiments and add: In this thread Otto has not once, but several times in each of his posts described his OP as supportive of the council’s behavior. He used words like “praise,” “support,” and “appreciation”. In fact his OP was nothing but ugly criticism. Criticism is fine in general (although I’m in complete disagreement about this specific example), but call a spade a spade. Don’t claim credit for being one of the team when you’re really working hard to rip it apart.
Read the OP again and find me even one sentence that could be described as “appreciation” as Otto claimed it.
You are the one that criticized the Madison board for passing a resolution that Osama wouldn’t know or care about. I guess what I was saying is that you don’t have the guts to criticize the board to their faces. The heads of state, the captains of industry, the leaders of the entertainment world all have lots of folks with more nerve than you’ve got criticizing them.
“You did the right thing a couple of weeks ago when, in voting on a resolution condemning the 9/11 attacks, you replaced the word “prayers” with the word ‘sympathies.’”
And:
“But since you insisted on doing it, at least you did it right, removing the religious component from a government-sponsored action.”
Followed by:
“And you did the right thing again last night, when you refused to re-open debate on the resolution so that the god-fetishists could try to cram the word “prayers” back into it.”
So that’s four sentences in appreciation of the council’s actions. Out of an eight-sentence post.
Were you, perhaps, accidentally reading a different thread when you made this comment?
“You did the right thing a couple of weeks ago when, in voting on a resolution condemning the 9/11 attacks, you replaced the word “prayers” with the word ‘sympathies.’”
And:
“But since you insisted on doing it, at least you did it right, removing the religious component from a government-sponsored action.”
Followed by:
“And you did the right thing again last night, when you refused to re-open debate on the resolution so that the god-fetishists could try to cram the word “prayers” back into it.”
So that’s four sentences in appreciation of the council’s actions. Out of an eight-sentence post.
Were you, perhaps, accidentally reading a different thread when you made this comment?
The only one of those four sentences that could be considered supportive would be the first. And that’s only if you take it out of context. If your entire post had been: “Way to go, Madison Common Council.” that would’ve been supportive. However, your second sentence quickly made it clear that the first was sarcastic.
I’m not going to rip apart the next three sentences. If it isn’t clear to you that they are not even slightly “appreciative” as you classify them, then it’s clear you really are that silly.
