This isn’t a rant about anything, but I figured it would be better in the pit then in any other one.
What I need to know is:
What is your favorite, meanest insult? If thewres more then one, then please, add them. I need to yell at a few jerks at school, and calling them dumbfucks just doesn’t cut it anymore.
Hey, I guess I could rant a bit! I’m yelling at some boys at school because at my school dance(which I didn’t go to) they got drunk, and threatened to rape my best freind. We were going to go to the police, but one of the guy’s dad is a police officer, so we figured that wouldn’t do anything, so my freinds came to me. It seems that I Have a sharp tongue… whatever. The fact is, I need insults. And lots of 'em.
Has your friend talked to her parents? What’s their take on involving the police?
If your take on the situation is right and the police in your town are so corrupt as to do nothing, not even warn the boys, then seriously, going out of your way to insult them is not a good idea.
Protecting and defending your friends is one thing – being needlessly provocative is another. Unless you are sure you can be confident of your own safety and the safety of your friend.
Ah, another Yellowknife thread (sounds like a swell place).
Following on from from Primaflora, once you’ve got past the danger side, insult their manhood. The best way is to call them gay (I’m sure you can come up with a better way to imply this than I could). That’ll fuck 'em .
Provoking a guy who’s already threatened to rape your friend is not a good idea. Go to the cops, a school counselor, a parent or someone. Even if they don’t do anything to the kid, the threat will be on record, so that if he ends up doing something in the future, they can look back at that.
School Councellor or the local Child Protective Services. Get everyone who heard it to call.
They won’t go through the cops if they become a problem, they’ll go around them. The kid’s dad is going to end up looking bad in any case (moreso if he tries to put the kibosh on the complaint and fails) and I bet he won’t be too happy with his son…
This advice is dangerous. If a punk is inclined to rape a girl, challenging his heterosexual virility can only increase the motivation to carry through. Please advise all adults that you can talk to about this threat. It should be taken seriously.
Having read previously about the type of people that magic has to deal with, it is quite obvious that they will dislike gay people and will hate being called gay. This is unlikely to change, so you are doing nothing to harm gay relations by hurling such an insult. I was answering her “meanest insult” question, not expressing a personal view. And yes, I know that I didn’t specify that this isn’t my “favourite, meanest insult”, but I assumed that people here might be able to pick up from my post that it was being tailored to her situation. So go and roll your eyes elsewhere.
greinspace - Fair point. In my defence, I did say to make certain that there was no real danger, but I can see that this might just push them from drunken-joking to drunken-doing.
So fucking what? There is nothing wrong with being gay, and to insinuate such is not only detrimental to everything involved but actually insulting to the OP, as she’s no more heterosexual than I am (know your audience).
And whose opinion is it that this is the meanest insult? Definitely not hers. And that leaves the boys involved and you.
Thanks, but I think I’ll leave them right where they belong.
Well, one of my brother’s best friends is a cop’s kid. If his father learned of him doing something like that at your age, m8b, he would have given them a pretty severe tonguelashing AND appropriate punishment. Your friend has EVERY RIGHT to seek a restraining order against these guys and She. Should.
Don’t presume just because his dad’s a cop that his dad has as little sense as he does. Please report this.
iampunha - Hmm. Well, I tried to explain why I said it, but you’re just interested in being upset. To reiterate, I believe that the boys in question would be insulted by this but I do not (myself) go around calling people gay as an insult.
So fucking what? There is nothing wrong with being gay, and to insinuate such is not only detrimental to everything involved but actually insulting to the OP, as she’s no more heterosexual than I am (know your audience).
As I said, I didn’t see that these guys were going to have their opinions changed anytime soon. Point taken about the target audience, but it magic’s decision to decide if she’s comfortable to use a gay insult, irrespective of whether she is or is not herself. As the object of the insult was to insult their manhood, no doubt she could come up with another way to do it (although as grienspace points out, that might not be such a good idea). For the record, I don’t think that there is anything wrong with being gay (just in case you haven’t picked that up yet).
And whose opinion is it that this is the meanest insult? Definitely not hers. And that leaves the boys involved and you.
Not really true, is it. You can tell from my posts that I don’t believe it’s the meanest thing you can say to anyone, just that it will really piss these guys off. Seeing as you seem to know magic’s situation (better than I do), you’d probably have to agree with me here (even if you don’t agree with actually doing it).
*Thanks, but I think I’ll leave them right where they belong. *
Thanks for letting me know. There is this two-hour blank period in my memory today, so that must be when I was interested in being upset.
Either that or I was napping.
Then it might not be the best idea in the world (though one wonders if you’re concerned about the best things to do and/or say) to insinuate in any serious manner that it is a valid insult.
Well, contrast this with the following conveniently-supplied quote from … oh, you! “I was answering her “meanest insult” question, …”
And if you’re going to assert that I was deliberately not telling the truth, you might want to go through your own posts and see if maybe I was actually responding to what you said.
I don’t have to agree with you on anything up to and including the sum of 1 and 1. I don’t think the best idea would be to rile the boys up at all but to give whatever information necessary/possible to someone who could handle the situation properly.
But that “Oh, let’s call them gay, because that will be an effective insult in deterring a threat of sexual violence!” mindset is just so cute! :: pinches Bromley’s cheeks ::
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I love rolleyes because I don’t have to make a point with them, I can just let 'em rip and bask in my superiority!
Seriously, my biggest suggestion is to avoid them. These guys seem like the ones your friend is best to not associate with. Let the cops know, because you don’t know if it will make a difference until you have tried it. If your friend feels threatened, accompany them to the principal, and make sure those guys won’t be coming back to the dances for a while. Your friend has a right to safety. You would probably not do well to escalate these things by insulting the agressors. Hate begets hate.
My best insult? Looking at the person who is doing his macho posturing right after he has let off a real gem, and laughing right in his face. Pure hearty laughter. Makes 'em more angry than any words, as they see that what they are saying isn’t getting to you. Probably not good to use in this situation though.
“Oh, how absolutely adorable. Neandertal dominance displays. I thought they’d died out seven thousand years ago. Do it again, boys, I wanna write it up for Discovery Channel!”
And magic8ball, dear, report it. To somebody at the cop shop other than the dipshit’s Dad. And do explain that you were reluctant to come forward for this reason, that the kid’s using his Dad’s status to get away with petty bullshit.
AFAIK, a certain percentage of the cops in the North are rotated through on ummmm I think two-year rotations, so you do get new cops that aren’t tied to the current state of community relationships. In other words, get a new cop that hasn’t buddied up yet. Most of the cops I’ve known take a VERY dim view of cop kids attempting to use their personal relationships as protection.
Rape threats are not a joke. The North has the highest rate of sexual assault per capita in Canada. One of the most effective ways to deal with it is to refuse to treat it as a joke. It is a threat of future violence. Get your complaint in, and make sure that it goes on file. Yes, you can insist - it may not make the officer taking the complaint very happy, but as long as you are polite but firm, it is his damn job.
Unfortunately, from what I have seen of this particular behaviour pattern here, anyways, is that it IS only a matter of time before these animals act out. It may not be you and your friend that are the victims - do EVERYBODY a favor and at least begin the Official Record of their lack of conscience.
Isn’t the threat itself considered assault? If so, I would file charges, get a restraining order, tell the school authorities and every parent involved.
You can’t handle threats of rape with “insults.” It won’t defuse the situation and might make it worse.
I’ll echo what others have said: Don’t seek or encourage a confrontation, and go to the police.
If you have real reason to believe this jerks dad will try to sweep this under the rug, there are a couple things you can do. Most police departments have a department that investigates police misbehavior (Usually called Internal Affairs, or IAD, here in the US). Go to them and explain the situation. You could also go to a regional or national agency, like the RCMP. They may not have jurisdiction, but they can point you to other resources.
1.)Magic, as others have said, it is best not to antagonize the situation. If there’s a real problem, report it. A snappy quip is only going to make matters worse.
2.)iampunha, get over yourself and lay off of Bromley. It was obvious he was tailoring his insults to the situation. You want to insult Cartman from South Park? Tell him his new chapokamon doll “is… like totally gay”. Bromley was assuming that these guys also have the maturity of 8 year olds. He’s probably right. Go fight homophobia where it actually exists - not here.
3.) Finally, let’s agree that magic should use the authorities rather than clever verbal vitriol. Agreed? Now we can get back to her original intent which was just to share favorite creative insults - the type of thing you may yell at the guy who cut you off in traffic or at minor annoyances from friends:
yo’ mama joke: I call yo’ mama the bowling ball. No matter how many times I pick her up, finger her, and throw her ass in the gutter, she just keeps coming back for more.
scatological: scat smoker; shit snuffer
sexual: uncle fucker; moose molestor: eunuch
intelligence: troglodyte, knuckle dragger
There’s plenty more, but the best ones are a combination of the above themes. “Did yo’ mama take the puss oozing cock of a syphlitic silverback nine months before you were born?” “How’s about we save the gene pool and take up a collection to pay the vet for your neuter, you incestuous monkey fucker?” “show some balls, ya’ scat smoking eunuch” etc, etc.
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