JTR, will you marry me?
Well, it was the MILITARY, for crying out loud! Look at all the women these guys had to choose from! (I’m not saying you aren’t pretty, but just consider the circumstances.) Also. I’ve known several women who were in the Marines and/or the Army. Boot camp does wonders for anyones figure. That might’ve been a contributing factor as well. 
Scaling the wall to break into your room is really freaky though. Jeez. What the hell were they thinking?
dragonlady, glad to hear it.
Can anyone respond to this thread without a) sounding ludicrously vain, and b) opening themselves up for mockery?
I’m not ugly, despite what that punk said in third grade. I guess I’m considered pretty, judging by the reactions I get. This is where it’s strange to me: When I was young, nubile, thin(ner), etc., I didn’t get a third the attention I get now. (Although this sleazy guy did try to get me in his decrepit station wagon when I was 12…the whole, “Hey, need a ride?” No thanks. “I’ll give you a dollar if you get in my car.” NO! ::fleeing:
It actually creeps me out sometimes…like, the single middle-aged guy in my apartment complex who has often said, “Hey, there she is, prettiest girl in the complex,” or, “Mmm-mmm-MMM-mm-mmm!” or, “Alright, sexiest teacher around!” etc. as I walking to or from my apartment (through the courtyard). I don’t like the attention. I don’t like him knowing where I live. I’d just rather he say, “Hey Laura!” like all the kids in the complex do.
When I jog, I get honked at, whistled at, howled at, etc. at. Me, in grungy, sweaty, XL t-shirt, no makeup, blah blah blah. The honking and such…eh, whatever. I usually just ignore it. (That, or I yell as they pass, “OOOH! Can I date you! A man who hoots at women on the street is JUST what I’m looking for!”) But…there were these two guys in a red Honda Prelude that really creeped me out about a month ago. These two guys slowed down and kept pace with me (although they were about 15ft ahead), the passenger leaning his head out the window and learing back at me. I became very self conscious and focused on NOT making eye contact. After following me for a few, they finally sped off. And came back…then sped off.
Eeeekkkeeeeppp. No thanks. Once again, I do not like that kind of attention. My blond and fluffy-haired ex-cheerleader sister is much more equipped (hey, I’m talking personality-wise!) to handle that kind of thing.
I’ve concluded that I’m not getting more attractive as I age…people are getting more desperate. :rolleyes:
SWOON JTR, you could talk me right out of my panties.
looks down, embarrassed, and slips them back on
Gatsby said:
Amen to that.
Sunshine said:
I’d like to take this opportunity to offer to pat you. And I promise to avoid the top of your head.
Never mind. 
CrankyAsAnOldMan said:
Hijack. This summer there was a college student working on a project with me at work. She was bright and eager to learn and participate and did an excellent job. She was also a stunning redhead. I felt a little awkward around her, because I was having an internal war. I wanted to treat her professionally and respect her technical abilities and contribution to the project, but I can’t help thinking how much I wanted to ask her out. Yeah, I got distracted a little - not her problem, mine. And no, I never did ask her out. Never got a situation that was casual enough to do so, didn’t want to interject in the middle of a technical analysis - “That’s an excellent review of the situation. Would you like to go to dinner?”
I dated this girl once, she wasn’t spectacular, but we had some common interests. Her sister, however, was a knockout. Thin, busty, gorgeous. She was also bitchy, catty, manipulative, snotty, and a bit bitter toward men. And if I hadn’t been dating her sister, I might have fallen for it. I noticed she acted differently with me on the few occasions we were alone together than any other time. One evening I was over late and my girlfriend got busy doing something on the computer, and I was hanging in the living room. The sister came in wearing a skimpy tight pair of athletic shorts and a cut-off T-shirt - presumably pajamas. And she started talking to me, and we discussed this homework project she was working on, and I kept thinking “Oh my God!”
Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, while she was physically beautiful, her personality was a big mess, and I’m fortunate the situation worked as it did - it kept me from getting involved with her. So yeah, being “pretty” isn’t everything.
Laura,
I’ve met you in person, as you well know.
You’re pretty.
End of discussion.
[sub]As for me, I’ve been telling people for years that I’ve got to find someone GORGEOUS to give any children I have a chance at reasonable attractiveness.
Of course, with my luck, I’m probably impotent, too.[/sub]
To dragonlady and CrankyAsAnOldMan:
Thanks! You’ve made my day!
My niece is beautiful. And athletic. She’s made the varsity soccer team as a sophomore. AND she gets horrible grades.
Guys are falling all over her. And she, well she could care less what subject she is supposed to be studying, because she’s so pre-occupied with the boys. We were at a baptism the other day and a group of seniors (5 of them) came over in their car and asked her to go riding with them.
That’s the kind of attention that NO 15 year old needs.
I keep telling my sister-in-law that Nikki is a prime candidate for an all-girl school, but she won’t take my advice. Some girls can stay focused, and some can’t. She clearly is focusing on the wrong thing since she was on academic probation last year.
My 8 year old is a darling little girl. But I hope she doesn’t turn out to be drop dead gorgeous. Because I don’t think it will help her become a happy,fulfilled,productive member of society…and that’s the whole point, isn’t it?
I think that people have a harder time taking really beautiful people seriously. They are mostly taken for face value. Beautiful people sort of have to prove themselves and show that they aren’t just a pretty face in order to get the respect from people.
A lot of beautiful people will also depend on their looks to get them through life. There are a million stories about the gorgeous girl landing the rich guy.
I dunno… maybe my thinking is totally off…
Uh, DRY, I believe you’ve met me in person too. Did you fail to notice that I also posted in this thread? 
That is true. I’ve dated a number of really attractive women, and most of them use their looks to get ahead in just about any situation you can imagine. Anything from getting free stuff at a restaurant, to getting out of traffic tickets, to skipping lines at the post office.
A lot of gorgeous women do date rich guys exclusively, but I think I can almost understand it. She looks great, any guy would fall at her feet, so she can pick and choose whoever has the most to offer her. But sadly, really attractive women are so used to being treated superficially and shallowly that they learn to be that way from a very young age, and so only consider looks, money, stuff like that instead of personality and integrity. Until the looks start to go, then they start to notice that the hot rich guys don’t look at them anymore because they’re still surrounded by hotter 19 and 20 year old women trying to get at the money.
I was recently tossed aside by a girl I really cared about. For money and security. with a guy more than twice her age. It sucks, it doesn’t feel nice, but it’s life.
Fortunately, the girl I’m with now (who is very attractive) has already done her stint with chasing money, and got tired of it. Now she’s with me, even though she works in a hospital and has doctors and rich patients constantly trying to get her attention.
Err…umm…how to put this politely? :eek:
You’re attractive in an inner sort of way. I loved the “I was a Christian bookstore employee” hijack.
'Sides, if we’re gonna play THAT game, where were you LA doper ingrates when I need your votes in the Mr. Beauty thread! Huh? HUH??? :mad:
You COULD, quite easily have boosted my meager, oh so sensitive self esteem–but NO!!
[Charlton Heston voice]
DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL! DAMN YOU!
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Sorry for the hijack of the hijack…
I second Ruffian’s comments. It is degrading and embarrassing when men honk their horns and yell and whistle out the car window like animals; it makes me feel violated and cheap. Do these guys really think I would go out with them because they just let me know (and everyone else on the street) that they want to F–K me?
And yes, based on your looks, some people will treat you like you’re stupid. Just yesterday a client was “talking down” to me. I couldn’t hold my tongue any longer (he has done this quite a few times) and I said, “Joe, I’m blonde, NOT stupid.” I caught him off guard; he paused for a second, and then started laughing. My boss found it quite funny.
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*Originally posted by DRY *
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Err…umm…how to put this politely? :eek:
You’re attractive in an inner sort of way. I loved the “I was a Christian bookstore employee” hijack.
I haven’t met you in person Arnold, but I saw a picture of you blowing bubbles and I almost had impure thoughts.
Seriously. You also kept posting in threads where you kept complaining about how old you are now.
Man, you look really good for 63.
Oh, and men who honk their horns when they drive by are always dumb and unattractive and I would never date one.
I think they do this because they know that the girl they are honking at would never even look at them otehrwise so they know they have nothing to lose by the whistling. What they have to gain is attention, even if it’s only fleeting attention.
Oh christ, sorry about the all the bold.
It’s just that anything referring that mentions ** Arnold Winkelried ** should always be ** BOLD **…
kinda like how MAX POWER doesn’t abbreviate and spells all words with capital letters.
I never understood the beauty/money trade-off thing. A rich man can look at his gorgeous wife for free; how does a gold-digging woman know her husband will give her any money? Does she have an allowance? How do they get along as a married couple? Is there always the underlying tension of, “You know we don’t really have anything in common and I’m dumping you as soon as your looks go”?
Anyway.
I asked Cecil this once and never got a response: didn’t there used to be a Beautiful People club of some kind? It was supposed to be a social club where you could get together with other knockouts who could sympathize with your being treated differently because of your looks. Also, of course, you could meet and date people as good-looking as yourself. So, do you have to submit a photo with your application or what? Who decides if you’re gorgeous enough to get in?
Lola is so beautiful I wonder if I should even let her out of the house…
Hell, she would look great in a burlap sack.
Too pretty? Never.
It really comes down to how people prejudge and treat you based on your appearance. Not all beutiful people are shallow and not all plain people have a great depth of character. Many people I consider beautiful do not fit the norm of what is beautiful.
I asked Cecil this once and never got a response: didn’t there used to be a Beautiful People club of some kind? It was supposed to be a social club where you could get together with other knockouts who could sympathize with your being treated differently because of your looks. Also, of course, you could meet and date people as good-looking as yourself. So, do you have to submit a photo with your application or what? Who decides if you’re gorgeous enough to get in? **
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That is sickening. I am aghast. You could find others to date AS ATTRACTIVE AS YOURSELF?
The only good example of it being bad to be pretty I have seen here is that people assume you aren’t smart.
That is a valid drawback, but not always true. Sometimes it has the opposite effect, or so i have read in social psychology.
People tend to attribute people who look attractive with other positive qualities, subconscious or not. Many experiments have been conducted to support this.
The findings show that if two people, men or women, are applying for a job and they are equally qualified, the more attractive person often gets the job.
Another experiment was a mock trial in which the defendent was either attractive or not. In a significant number of cases, the jury found the attractive man innocent and the less attractive man guilty, although the testimont was the same.
That is why I am having trouble seeing disadvantges. They are probably not many, but I have yet to see a beautiful person for which being beautiful solved all his or her problems.
Some people find this surprising-
“How can a pretty girl like you not have a boyfriend?”
Sheesh.
My friend i was mentioning in the OP has never been thought less intelligent because of her beauty. Her big problem, she says, is that she cannot have male friends because they always end up falling in love with her and when she turns them down they don’t want to be her friend anymore.
Maybe if she did gain 20 pounds she would know better who her real friends are.
Lola is so beautiful I wonder if I should even let her out of the house…
Hell, she would look great in a burlap sack.
Too pretty? Never.
It really comes down to how people prejudge and treat you based on your appearance. Not all beutiful people are shallow and not all plain people have a great depth of character. Many people I consider beautiful do not fit the norm of what is beautiful.
DRY, you may take a few lessons from Turpentine in how to responde to a desperate plea for praise.
Except that Turpentine mentioned how I look good for 63?!? I’m only 59.
DRY, I would have voted for you in the Mr. Beauty thread, but using my predictive powers I knew you were going to diss me in this thread so I decided to pay you back (or is that pay you forward?)
But next time I see you on the LA freeways I promise to honk my horn, open my window, wave my tongue in the air and scream “nice but! give me some of that hot stuff!”