Is rape the forcing of a soul tie between the rapist and victim?

If the victim/survivor gets pregnant and decides to have the baby (it happens more often than you think, probably) they are combined, so to speak… Otherwise, I’m not seeing it.

I do not believe I could honestly tell you how I felt about this “theory” without violating at least half a dozen of the rules of the SDMB.

So is this supposed tie forged by the penis, or is it due to the shared experience? Is a similar tie forged between all of those raping a woman in a gang rape? Is such a tie forged between the victim and those who merely hold her down so she can be more easily raped? What about those who merely cheer on the rapist as he is forging the bond? Does such a bond get forged when police rape a detainee with a broomstick or is the power in the penis itself?

What’s the debate here?

Thank you. Why is this nonsense worth a thread?

Hereis a soul tie, I don’t get what it has to do with rape, however.

I reason thusly:

  1. Souls do not exist.
  2. That which does not exist cannot be tied.
  3. Rape is not the forcing of a soul tie between rapist and victim.

Take this sort of thing to the Pit.

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Why not just kick this <insert expletive> thread to the pit?

I’ll check back in on this one when it’s in the Pit.

OK, this is what your PM is from.

Placing one persons sin on another happens all the time. It goes from the person with power to the person without power. An example a boss is having a rough day and takes it out on a employee, that transfers aggression and anger to the employee, the boss feels better, the employee feels worse - this is sin on the part of the boss, unjust anger placed on one in his service - unjust expressed anger is sin. That employee goes home and abuses his wife to release himself of that anger - again misplaced and sin, that wife gets relief by getting angry with her children, again misplaced and sin, those children have no further way to getting rid of what was unjustly put on them, they act out and are punished, or they self punish by feeling bad about themselves for something that was not their fault and something they had no control over.

What is the person doing in their heart? Are they raping that person, or for that matter even controlling the person doing the raping?

A physical penis is not required, as such a woman can do this to another woman.

The transfer is part of forced or voluntary submission to the other.

You are talking about a soul tie between mother to child to father I assume. This situation if she has the child or aborts the soul of that child is a very dangerous situation for that child as that child will very likely bear the sin of the father as the mother will have a tendency to transfer what the father did to the child.

Re: date rape, here is a short summary, and will take the ‘typically’ assumed case where the man ‘date rapes’ the woman, though it can go either way and can be the same gender also.

  • Words mean things (much more then we realize), words are the basis of witchcraft - many many people use witchcraft without even knowing it. Backhanded comments are common use of witchcraft.
  • Sex either physical or committed in the heart, if the basis is lust (as opposed to love) creates a soul tie which is a basis of voodoo.
  • People have different levels of spiritual power (authority), and different levels of spiritual bondage which works against spiritual power. Here the woman will look for a spiritual weaker man, or a man with a high level of spiritual bondage.
  • The man submits to the woman, this could be in ‘playing’, such as play swordfighting with sticks where the woman wins, holds the man at sword point and she commands him to surrender - if he verbalizes the surrender and the woman in her heart feels empowered by this it is a spiritual surrender. It could be at almost any game, or it could be totally verbal, such as the man saying I trust you with me.
  • The woman may make some comment to command her submitted servant to have sex with out regard to any objection by her at the time.
  • when the act is happening she will stay within the boundaries that would stop the act, those boundaries are the moral coding of the man, if she does exceed them her ability to control him will be broken.
  • When it is over she lays a guilt trip on him, even resulting to police action.

Like I said this form of sin transfer is very very evil due to the level of deception.

Adding on date rape, the above is premeditated by her by the heart, not (necessarily) by the head - she will most likely not realize that she sets this up. This is what comes out of her heart as spoken of by Jesus. Her heart is looking for a way to unburden itself of something, usually sexual, even molestation as a child, by transference.

The more she comes out the more comfort she receives (a longing if her heart is to be comforted for some past wrong put onto her), and the more punishment he receives. Again this is misplaced onto this guy.

Healing of this is the guy realizing that he wrongly submitted to her and was taken advantage, not because she is evil (but she did commit a evil act), but because she was just trying to find a way to receive comfort that was withheld from her, forgiving her and himself and asking God to heal him.

For her is it is realization that what was put on her in the past needs to be healed, she needs to forgive the original act and person who hurt her.

I do not see why, I was expressing my wish that this person would be banned thanks to their unrelenting idiocy cloaked in religious terms. I used no bad language nor wished them death or any violent fate.

On behalf of the rest of Christendom, and knowing that many members of it may say the same of me, the opinions of kanicbird are solely his or her own and do not necessarily represent any one else in this world or others.

I would certainly hope that there aren’t any other people who think or have opinions like kanicbird.

But kanicbird is useful! If we ever encounter evil androids like the Enterprise did in that TOS episode, and you need to confuse them, one post by kanicbird will make their heads explode. The grammar and expression itself* is so hard to understand, let alone the very special logic kanicbird employs.

  • I’m assuming here that kanicbird is a native English speaker. If English is his/her second language and that’s why he/she is expressing himself so unclear, then I apologize and retract that part.

Are you saying every instance of date rape is like this, or that it’s possible for an instance of date rape to be like this?

In other words, could you explain what you mean by “date rape” in mundane terms? According to its outer appearances or something?