Is the C-word allowed outside the Pit? {Answered: not in a misogynistic way or to insult. Not even with a letter changed}

[puzzlegal]

@mordecaiB

I really don’t understand the mod reluctance to share info with posters that would help them understand their decisions

I’m not sure what more you want shared. We discussed what happened, and where we ended up. We gave guidance that I hope is actionable:

@puzzlegal

It is the board’s policy to stop casual misogyny. It will not be tolerated, even in the Pit. We are not specifically banning any words, but please report instances of misogyny and expect moderator action.

The use of “qunt” was misogynistic, and a mod note has been issued.

We apologize that it took so long to resolve this. We were distracted by “should we ban this word?” The mods have agreed that in general, we don’t want to ban words, and then realized that the issue here was not about the word, but the misogyny.

If you need to know “when can I use the word ‘cunt’”, I suggest that you refrain from using it. As others have noted, board-appropriate uses are few.

[mordecaiB]

@puzzlegal

If you need to know “when can I use the word ‘cunt’”, I suggest that you refrain from using it. As others have noted, board-appropriate uses are few.

I do refrain from using it, everyone seems to forget that I’m the one that is okay with limiting it’s use to the Pit, where I rarely post. I’m also in favor of a bright line rule for it’s use. So please don’t imply that I’m looking for a way to use the word that will get around the mods. I already asked you once, politely, in this thread not to act like you can read my mind.

What I’m saying is what you have is not a plan, it’s an idea. A plan would outline what you are trying to accomplish and how you intend to accomplish it.

Just telling posters to report misogyny is useless if the mods don’t take action on it, like the threads that are discussed here. And, again, your new plan seems to be the same as the old plan from five years ago. The plan that allowed qunt and women asking to be raped to go unchallenged by a lot of mods.

What is it specifically about this plan that is different, and how will it accomplish what the first plan failed at? Is that really too much to ask for?

[Max_S]

@mordecaiB

What is it specifically about this plan that is different

My takeaway from this is that neither the rules, nor policy, nor approach have changed. The mods didn’t take any steps to prevent a future “qunt” episode, aside from their personal experience of having made a mistake and having had to fix it:

@puzzlegal

The mods made a mistake, and after discussion, we’ve fixed that mistake, and taken action.

~Max

[puzzlegal]

@Max_S

The mods didn’t take any steps to prevent a future “qunt” episode, aside from their personal experience of having made a mistake and having had to fix it:

exactly.

[DrDeth]

True. It is just that the “last straw” was very feeble. Shodan was bound to screw up again big time, it would have been better to wait.

[mordecaiB]

@puzzlegal

exactly

You know what they say about trying the same thing over and over, expecting different results? This is a prime example. Wishful thinking is a terrible option when you have an easy fix that would stop the need for a thread like this ever again. So, good luck, I guess?

[engineer_comp_geek]

Moderator Note

Shodan’s banning has nothing at all to do with the topic of this thread. Those who can’t get over his banning are just going to have to deal with it. Don’t keep bringing it into unlrelated threads.

Let’s have no more discussion of Shodan in this thread.

[silenus]

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