The easiest scenario I could imagine would be that due so some sort of malfeasance the GOP has the general election locked up, with other parties being effectively non-existent, but you have an opportunity to vote in the Republican primary, with Trump and candidate X being the front runners.
After I posted, I thought up a scenario where this might happen. That would be for there to be a concerted nation-wide program by Republicans to declare that Democratic candidates were ineligible to appear on ballots and that any ballots with a Democrat as a write-in would not be counted. In such a case, people might be put into a position of having to choose between the Republican candidate and a third party or independent candidate.
I remember the joke about Edwards having to hire a new campaign staff because none of his previous people had any experience running a campaign based on having the moral high ground.
You forget, though, that it’s also a vote against Biden. It doesn’t really matter who wins – the message for the future of the party is, don’t run someone like Biden.
Whether or not Trump wins is unimportant, because we’ve been down this road before. End of the world, etc., just like the world ended last time this idiot was president. Don’t get me wrong, I hate the man, and don’t want him to be president. But I also hate what Biden represents, and don’t want him to be president. I’m not playing your stupid “lesser or two evils” game. There is no “lesser”.
If voting third party is a vote for Trump instead of Biden, well, don’t run Biden. I’m not the idiot here, the Democratic Party is if they think I’m going to vote for a piece of shit because I don’t like a different piece of shit.
Nonsense. While it’s true that the world could be better off if both major parties were forced to disappear, they can’t happen simultaneously, and it’s imperative that the Republican Party be destroyed FIRST.
#It’s_a_sin_to_vote_for_a_Republican
#it’s_also_a_sin_to_consent_to_a_Republican_holding_elected_office
I really don’t think it matters anymore. The sole litmus test today for a Republican running for office is “Does that candidate support Trump?” Essentially, any Republican running for president this election cycle is not actually running for office; they’re running to get their name in front of the electorate for the next election.
This is where opinions differ. What do you think of Project 2025? Of Trump talking about revenge against his political enemies? Of withdrawing Ukrainian support and encouraging Israel? Of national laws and mandates he’s talked about, like an abortion ban and refusing to relinquish power in four years? Do you think his first administration has had little effect? What’s your mental timeline for climate change?
That’s a lot, and I don’t expect you or anyone else to go point by point. Hell, I’ve probably forgotten some. TLDR: I think a lot of people (and probably even more than I think) have been, or would be, impacted by Trump, and would…disagree that him regaining power is “unimportant.”
(Heck, I actually think accelerationists have more of a point; at least they acknowledge Trump’s ability to make things worse.)
To me that’s kind of like saying he’s doing it intentionally. 
It’s more like they’re acknowledging the fact of how much of a fuck-up he is. 
No! The bigger problem with Trump is he already knows the presidential ropes, and how to get things done. In his first term he made many mistakes and could not gain absolute power. Those mistakes were stumbling blocks to him, and Trump sort of figured that out by the end of his term.
Also I know of the evil Trump has done as it is easy to see, and pretty much embodies the biblical evil end time characteristics of what is commonly referred to as the antichrist. Another person I really don’t know, but it would be hard to line up as much evil traits in one person.
Finally Trump is a sort of beast that commands respect, few people have this ability anywhere near that of Trump. i.e. someone like MGT would be laughed at and ignored. Alito is just powerful because of the respect of the court, and such command does not seem to be in him.
What is an “accelerationist?” (really asking…I like to think I am current with politics but this is a new one for me)
The parties never, ever get such messages.
They didn’t with Perot. They didn’t with Nader. And those two actually changed the election even though neither came anywhere near winning.
Bush (the second one) lost the popular vote and just barely eked out a win by insanely narrow margins. Did he or the party have any kind of reflection about what they should change? Nope, they continued on as though they had a landslide win and a mandate from the American people. Did democrats reflect on what went wrong in that election? Not at all. Not even a little bit.
Obama upset Clinton and Sanders came kinda close and neither of those were third-party. Did Clinton’s campaign or the democratic party take any lessons from that? Nope. None. Sanders almost did it again until Biden jumped in at the 11th hour.
You give the parties too much credit to be reflective and contemplative. They simply are not and your protest vote will go completely unheeded and unnoticed no matter what happens.
VERY broadly, those who welcome and even want for things to get worse, faster, so that the corrupt system finally crashes and it provokes the eventual final clash (revolution, Second Coming, whatever your ideology is into).
Thinking on this some more, I think the issue is the individuals in the party are not interested in the health of the party or even the country. They are self-interested in retaining their own, personal power. A change threatens that so they will not work for change. They will work for the status quo.
We have someone in this thread that thinks Biden is as bad as Trump. Jesus wept.
SWTT? A little help?
I actually think it is important who wins. Don’t most people?
Someone worse than Trump
Gee I should have known that… 
I was referring back to the previous paragraph:
Does not compute.
WORD. Discource.