That’s not debating. That is just a yes and no argument. You need to explain your position.
Why are you stunned? A babysitter isn’t the same as a mother or a father. I guess you are saying it’s bad that Dio likes spending time with his family. :rolleyes:
This has nothing to do with what I’ve said. We aren’t talking about parents going out together occasionally, were talking about one parent regularly going off to get wasted and pass out with strangers. I’m not going to play this game where people twist the shit out of what I said.
Yeah got me there, that’s exactly what I meant. uR so smrt!
Ok, is anyone actually going to validate this type of question with a sincere or serious answer? Please. This is obviously someone trying to get a mess of strangers to give an uninformed and thereby practically useless answer that he can use to bludgeon (verbally Ihope) his wife with and appear to have a useful cite to use against her. In consideration of the eloquent explanation of circumstances surrounding the egregious incident, I must reply:
GO FISH.
You’re projecting quite a bit there. You must have quite a vivid imagination.
Unless I missed something (and it’s certainly possible I did), that’s not an accurate summary of this thread, either.
I think I messed up sorry…I meant this to go back to the original “is this ok” post…haven’t figured out how to work this thread stuff yet…sorry. I’m definitely in the way-newbie category and apologies for posting before i had it figured out.
Then, what did you mean? I’m confused. Do you mind explaining what you said a little more thoroughly?
**Your Post: **
What if kids enjoy spending time with mom and dad rather than the sitter?
Based on the details you gave, my answer is this (and** this is my opinion**):
No, that’s not being a good mother and a good wife.
Again, my answer is based on vague details that were presented by the OP.
I share the same interpretation of the thread.
Then by all means, both parents should spend every moment of every day with the kids. That’s certain to produce healthy, balanced children who are capable of coping independantly in a variety of situations.
Seriously, all the parents responding here enjoy spending time with their family, I promise you. Going out occasionally and getting a sitter, or letting kids have one-on-one time with just one parent does not mean that you don’t like family time too, nor does it mean the children will be unhappy people. Honestly, it’s bizarre to me that there seems to be an implication of all or nothing here. Does the concept of balance and moderation really equate to abandonment and neglect? I really feel like I’m missing something in your argument. Am I reading you right that neither parent, alone or together, should ever do something out of the home without the children, even if the children are being well cared for during their short absence? If I’m wrong, please clarify.
While I was posting, I see you clarifying that you mean specifically not going out regularly to get wasted, which I think everyone here is in complete agreement with. The confusion is coming from the scores of people offering situational examples of times they feel going out does not make one a bad parent or spouse, and being met with remarks from you and Diogenes that really imply no parent should leave their child’s side, ever. If that’s really not the message you meant to give,'I apologize, but it’s quite hard to interpret it any other way.
Then the parents should never EVER hire a sitter and go out for a romantic dinner. And if they do, then they are like, totally bad parents and their kids should be taken away from them.
I’m totally cereal too. Once that pink monkey comes squirting out that’s it. No going out for 20 years in case Timmy or Suzie get sad and grow up to be mass murderers.
No, I’m not saying they should never do something out of the home or without children. ** I never said never.** However, I am saying that getting drunk and passing out at a stranger’s house is not good parenting. When people decide to become parents, they need to put their children’s needs above their own needs. When parents do that, they are being responsible parents.
In my humble opinion, a parent does not have the need to go out and get plastered and go to a stranger’s house.
**OP’s post: **
Am I misinterpreting?
At no point did the OP ever mention getting wasted.
And, honestly, even with the extra info, it reads as someone who is intentionally withholding information.
I had a feeling you were kind of granola. 
Oh, I missed that part. Three times in four weekends? That does not sound good.
Parents should never leave their children with a babysitter. Haven’t y’all ever seen the documentary When a Stranger Calls?
I’m +1 on this. Getting in such a bad way that you need to “crash” with someone “you barely know” is not responsible parenting.
This is not to say that parents can’t party, or drink or whatever - it’s just a recognition that sometimes you need to think of the bigger picture. Plan ahead a little, have a bit of common sense.
Did I stumble into Yahoo Answers again?