[QUOTE=Sevastopol]
There are no objective measures to assess if this is so.
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How about this:
Corruption Perception Index
Notice that there are no other ME countries that scores higher than Israel. Some are close, but most are quite a bit lower.
But, really why should I bother? Come on admit it, there is nothing anyone here could say to you that would change your mind is there? Be honest. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Uzi]
Be honest.
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Dog, meow!
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
Israel is and have been a disaster that never should have been created and their creation is something that gonna be a major factor for the instability in the region.
Given their political agenda the last decades: I’m pretty sure that Israel will not live to celebrate their 100Th anniversary
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STEAK BURRITOS
2 lb. steak, all fat trimmed & cubed
1 sm. diced onion
1 diced tomato
1 sm. can tomato sauce
1 sm. jar taco salsa
1 pkg. taco seasoning
8 burrito shells
Sliced cheese
Brown steak in fry pan with little oil. Add onion and tomato. Add tomato sauce, taco salsa and seasoning. Bring to light boil. Add flour to thicken into gravy. After thickened turn to simmer. Warm burritos in a pan. Then put a slice of cheese and then meat. Roll to eat.
[QUOTE=Argent Towers]
It’s quite possible to stick a poker up your ass or a fishhook in your urethra and not die.
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Yeah, but after something like that happens, wouldn’t you WANT to?
Aw, gee, and I had such a good time celebrating Wednesday night! Too bad I didn’t know the OP thinks I shouldn’t have been celebrating – would have put a real damper on my holiday spirit! 
Not.
We went to the central party put on by the City – one of two major venues in town. Saw some great live shows that I’m not sure would go over too well in those poor betrodden pillars of enlightenment that surround us… Ivri Lider, Dana International, Monica Sex… great fun and some booze were had by all, even by the (obviously to-be-evil :rolleyes: ) kidlets 
Nice fireworks, too!
Wildfire, your country – how many wars, witch-hunts and religious purges has it been through? Did your ancestors participate in any of the Crusades? You know, those imperialistic voyages to kill all the Muslims in and around Jerusalem and claim the area for Christiandom? Do you think this also means your country should not celebrate its stathood?
Eh, what do I care really? My answer to your pathetic rants and raves is living here, and living well.
Happy Birthday, Israel! 
[QUOTE=Argent Towers]
What the fuck does any European know about Israel and the Jews? Wildfire, wherever you’re from in “C Europe,” I can pretty much guarantee that your people murdered thousands of my people - if you’re in Germany, make that millions. The nations of Europe savagely brutalized the Jewish people for centuries - through Crusades, pogroms, “passion plays” that were followed by Jew-slaughtering, the Inquisition, and the fucking Holocaust - you have no right, absolutely NO right, to make judgments about Israel. Every nation in Europe is built on a fucking mountain of skulls.
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and what the fuck does any american know about Israel and the jews
americans have a mindset that they still live in the 1950s. Nationalistic pygmies with a duel personality, so fucking high moral in public, but at the same time have their own homes filled with perverse porn. Redneck evangelical christians, perverted hillbilly’s in the deep south and necons that wants to rule the world. Thats America!
Most american can’t stand the fact that most humans actually don’t want to be american (Usanians)
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
Thats America!
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Well, it’s good to know that your idiocy and broad brush stupidity applies to other nations as well. At least you’re consistent.
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]
This story sounds so familiar. I think there’s another country with exactly this same history, right down to the bulldozing of a well-established native people, and they’ll also be celebrating this achievement in a few months. Starts with a “U” and I think it might be south of Canada. I’m sure I’ll think of it in a moment.
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Then you agree that the origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was and is the jewish immigration to that area and their nationalistict aspiration to create a jewish nation?
Hrmmm… Jews buying property and wanting to have self-determination once the sovereign of the land fell, or the Grand Mufti allying with Adolph Hitler and the Nazis and helping to design and implement the Final Solution? Yeah, definitely the uppity Jews’ fault for daring to exist and claim the right to have their own state, who could blame the Nazi-Palestinian alliance for trying to wipe them out?
Care to explain how you justify an organized campaign of genocide because ~gasp!~ Jews lived somewhere and didn’t want to be subjects in a Palestinian state that was in many ways, ideologically a Nazi state?
Any time now.
[QUOTE=FinnAgain]
Which would be interesting, if you weren’t an habitually lying racist troll who, much like our OP, has endorsed genocide and are currently simply lying through your teeth and pretending that instead of trying to stop us, Israel actually directed the invasion of Iraq. Any piece of shit like you, who already had a Final Warning for trolling via Jew-baiting, should’ve been erased from the Dope for openly supporting genocide, freak. Most people who weren’t racist genocidal scum would at least have some pangs of conscience when typing something like “thoughts of obliteration, the erasure of Judaism from the face of the earth, the demolition of its temples and incineration of the last Torah, [are] entirely natural and to be expected”. But not filth like you, nope, you just add a mealey mouthed cowardly little caveat. For racist scum, you don’t even have any balls.
You do, however, sure love lying, eh racist? I mean, you really, really love lying, you anti-Semitic freak.
Go back to rationalizing the point blank execution of pregnant women and their children, as long as they’re Israeli settlers.
Scum.
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I think that Finn should be more polite toward people that do not agree with his views.
Since the majority of the replies here seams to be pretty pro-Israel, they should respect those who aren’t. This is a debate board where we express different views and the Israel-lobby (who seams to be the majority) should try harder to make an argument and not harass they who have argument that are unlike their own ones
That’s so cowardly. That is as chickenshit an argument as the one the Klan makes when they want to march. We have to let you post, we don’t have to let you spout your bullshit unopposed.
[QUOTE=Uzi]
How about this:
Corruption Perception Index
Notice that there are no other ME countries that scores higher than Israel. Some are close, but most are quite a bit lower.
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Noooo !!! you must be kidding :eek:
…of course Israel have the best cellfones, the best computers, the best water, the best CD-players, the best roads, the best sand, the best music, the best films, the best people, the best schools, the best tickets, the best buses, the best paper clips, the best routermodems, the best pencils, the best rifles, the best trucks, the best parks, the best picket fences, the best asphalt, the best threes etc 
On top of the world!
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
I think that Finn should be more polite toward people that do not agree with his views.
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I think you should be ashamed that you are a lying, genocidal racist fuck who wastes carbon that could easily be used for better purposes, and you should probably give yourself a vasectomy via weedwhacker in order to preserve the viability of humanity’s gene pool.
Can we compromise?
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
Since the majority of the replies here seams to be pretty pro-Israel, they should respect those who aren’t.
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No no, you just advocated genocide. That goes a long way beyond being “not pro-Israel”.
Something tells me you’re not too stupid to realize that little ol’ distinction, either.
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
This is a debate board where we express different views and the Israel-lobby (who seams to be the majority) should try harder to make an argument and not harass they who have argument that are unlike their own ones
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Yay! It only took two pages before someone brought up the shadow conspiracy of the Israel Lobby. We’re doing well. Now if someone can claim that any criticism of Israel, at all, is always met with cries of anti-Semitism, we’ll be well on our way.
By the way, scum (do you mind if I call you scum?), not only have folks made an argument, you’ve steadfastly refused to even acknowledge those arguments and have, instead, continued lying and ignoring points. That and, of course, advocated genocide.
Care to actually address any of the argument leveled against you, or will you just lie some more and say that there weren’t any?
[QUOTE=FinnAgain]
I think you should be ashamed that you are a lying, genocidal racist fuck who wastes carbon that could easily be used for better purposes, and you should probably give yourself a vasectomy via weedwhacker in order to preserve the viability of humanity’s gene pool.
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Be carefull what you are saying. You don’t know me and the accusations you come with here are far over the limit
Report me to a mod then, you lying genocidal freak.
P.S. Your post advocating genocide is in this thread. Why deny it, scum?
Are you drunk? Stupid? Drunk and stupid?
I’m curious.
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
Noooo !!! you must be kidding :eek:
…of course Israel have the best cellfones, the best computers, the best water, the best CD-players, the best roads, the best sand, the best music, the best films, the best people, the best schools, the best tickets, the best buses, the best paper clips, the best routermodems, the best pencils, the best rifles, the best trucks, the best parks, the best picket fences, the best asphalt, the best threes etc
On top of the world!
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:dubious: You’re required to wear a hockey helmet 24 hours a day, aren’t you? Come on, you admit it. It’s not like we don’t already know.
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
americans have a mindset that they still live in the 1950s. Nationalistic pygmies with a duel personality, so fucking high moral in public, but at the same time have their own homes filled with perverse porn.
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Ain’t nothin’ perverse 'bout it.
That does it. You’ve lost spoke-.
Once again you have disrespected fruits and vegetables.
The Ogen Melon (called Ha-Ogen in Israel) is an Israeli Melon variety that was developed in the 1960’s. The variety was developed on a kibbutz (ie. a rural community in Israel dedicated to a socioeconomic system based on the principle of joint ownership of property). The kibbutz was named Ogen, hence the name of this melon. In Israel, the seed of the Ogen Melon was so highly conveted that it was guarded very jealously and seldom shared with outsiders due to the variety’s wonderful qualities..
Hmm…that doesn’t seem just. The Ogen Melon must be shared equally with all peoples of the region!
To the barricades!!!
Life in the Wildfireverse:
“The Jooooos are oppressing us, they want to live here and govern themselves!” “I totally know what you mean, we too have a Jewish Problem.” “I can suggest a Solution…”
We will fight back against their crime of existing here!
Our cause is just!
Onwards to our valiant fight against the wicked Joooos!
[QUOTE=Wildfire**MM]
Israel is and have been a disaster that never should have been created and their creation is something that gonna be a major factor for the instability in the region.
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Nah, troubles caused by Israel existence barely even notice on the scale when compared to real players. Actually, if we had to go by your standards, then Germany (existence of which caused two world wars with at least 80 millions deaths) should be eradicated, all German citizens fed cyanide pills and whole country cut-off and quarantined for at least 50 years. And not even let me start about Iraq…
