Israel 60 years: A very improper celebration indeed

Bushmen, maybe. Also Tierra Del Fuegoans.

Welfare dependent. It doesn’t do anybody any good.

Which would be interesting, if you weren’t an habitually lying racist troll who, much like our OP, has endorsed genocide and are currently simply lying through your teeth and pretending that instead of trying to stop us, Israel actually directed the invasion of Iraq. Any piece of shit like you, who already had a Final Warning for trolling via Jew-baiting, should’ve been erased from the Dope for openly supporting genocide, freak. Most people who weren’t racist genocidal scum would at least have some pangs of conscience when typing something like “thoughts of obliteration, the erasure of Judaism from the face of the earth, the demolition of its temples and incineration of the last Torah, [are] entirely natural and to be expected”. But not filth like you, nope, you just add a mealey mouthed cowardly little caveat. For racist scum, you don’t even have any balls.

You do, however, sure love lying, eh racist? I mean, you really, really love lying, you anti-Semitic freak.
Go back to rationalizing the point blank execution of pregnant women and their children, as long as they’re Israeli settlers.
Scum.

Regretting the lack of earlier death of =/= wishing death on (ref: previous “I wish your mother had aborted” rants), and** AT**'s rant just sounds like a recipe for pain and a colostomy bag, not death. Well, the bit you quoted, anyway. Red-hot pokers should be self-cauterising anyway.

No it’s yet another of Polycarp’s devious and lawyerly dodges to break to board’s rules and get away with it.

OK, if it makes you any better, the poker doesn’t need to be hot, and it can have a blunt end so it doesn’t pierce any of your internal organs. But you still need to jam it in there good. Hell, a poker is nothing compared to your mother’s femur up your ass while you’re skull-fucking her skeleton. It’s OK if you want to use some lubricant too, as long as that lubricant is in the form of rendered animal fat, so that after you’re done, you can chop off your dick and fry it in a pan, and then feed it to the mangy, rabid dog that lurks outside your shack, licking your discarded tin cans clean of residue. It’ll be a nice chance and the dog will be happy to finally get a hot meal, even if it’s infected with herpes and chlamydia. I think dogs are immune to that shit.

Oh, and as long as I’m pointing out how you’re a lying freak: Iran’s own governmental translators, including Ahmadinejad’s own translators all confirmed that Iran did indeed call for Israel to be wiped off the map. Which would be genocide, you war criminal wannabe. But keep up lying, freak.

It’s sad that subhuman hateful scum like you can rack up a Final Warning and then go on to advocate genocide, all while remaining unbanned. Sometimes the moderation of the Dope betrays some serious blind spots.

Interesting, of course, that genocidal scum like you are annoyed at “wishing death”. :rolleyes: Even worse is that freaks like you and wildfire are free to not just wish for death, but to wish for genocide, and as long as it’s against approved minorities, you freaks go on posting freely.

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Well, the surrounding states that are presumably not welfare dependent (I can’t cede Israel is without a clear definition of the term) pretty much lack democratic governments, civil rights, women’s suffrage, near-total literacy…

Religion completely ignored, Israel has by far the best government in the region.

There are no objective measures to assess if this is so.

Since we’re all on right now, let me give this a setting. We are in a wood-paneled library with a fireplace, above which is mounted the head of an Italian elk. The mantelpiece is adorned with precious artifacts from around the world. The walls are lined with glass-doored bookcases filled with leather-bound volumes of Latin and Greek philosophy. In one leather armchair sits Sevastopol, smoking a briar pipe, wearing a Harris tweed vest and a dark-gray knit tie, gray trousers and saddle-shoes. FinnAgain sits across the room in another sumptuous chair, dressed in a glen-plaid suit and playing idly with a polished brass figurine of a horse and rider. I am sitting near the fireplace in an orange-and-black argyle vest, tweed jacket, corduroy pants and a pair of Onitsuka Tiger Asics.

In the center of the room lies a puddle, or something close to it - not quite a mound, not quite a blob, but a vast and stinking puddle of what appears to be rotten, leprosy-infested animal flesh. Upon closer inspection, it is actually a mass of severed ox scrotums and tongues, writhing with maggots. This is Wildfire.

What about the four I listed, and which I’ll expand on a little:

Democratic Government: Free elections with minimal violence and intimidation by incumbents; multiple political parties with smooth transitions or power; minimal blatant voter fraud; secret ballots.

Civil Rights: Freedom of expression and religion; freedom of the press.

Women’s Suffrage: Voting rights for women. Additionally, vocational opportunities for women.

Near-total literacy: Speaks for itself, I trust, with educational opportunities for women.

I’m open to suggestion for other criteria that help identify a “good” government, and freely admit that standard I’m applying is pretty much the standard Western-liberal model, where an education population does not live in fear of its government and can vote to change it.

Gays are also allowed to have gay pride marches and be openly gay in Israel. Imagine the same thing happening in a Muslim country. They also allow gays in the military, something that even the U.S. doesn’t do.

Same-sex marriages are recognized.
Anybody, of any race, creed, religion or ethnicity, has full property rights and the ability to run for government, unlike any of the Apartheid states in the region where selling land to a Jew can earn you a death sentence (eg. Palestine) and where there are Muslim only roads (eg. Saudi Arabia).
Anybody has the right to petition the government for redressal of grievances, and the Supreme Court is vibrant and progressive in its stances, ruling against bigotry and racism time and time again.
The press is free, and holding an unpopular opinion won’t get you murdered as a ‘collaborator’.
Gays are not only allowed to march, they also aren’t the constant targets of murder and horrific physical abuse.

Etc, etc, etc.

Anybody who tells you that there’s no difference between autocratic hellholes and a democratic state which continually strives for universal equal rights is either ignorant, or trying to sell you something. Sevasty is trying to sell you something.

Of course you can compare governments. Fair, free elections = good. Brutal military dictator = bad. Israelis objectively have more political freedom than their neighbors do.

Mostly okay… but you’d have to add in that Sevasty will periodically shuck off his clothes in order to roll around in the Wildfire blob, fwapping madly to thoughts of dead Jews/Israelis. Before, of course, putting a suit back on and acting as if he’s not still slick with Wildfire slime.

Israel is and have been a disaster that never should have been created and their creation is something that gonna be a major factor for the instability in the region.

Given their political agenda the last decades: I’m pretty sure that Israel will not live to celebrate their 100Th anniversary

I seams to remember that the people in Gaza had free elections, but USA and Israel didn’t like the result

Gee, ya think?
No, honestly, that’s a question, are your neurons on speaking terms?

It looks to me as if the OP, who has finally returned to the thread, is deliberately inserting minor spelling and grammatical errors into their posts. Perhaps this is so that they can backpedal later and claim the such errors are evidence that earlier statements were linguistic midunderstandings.

Either that or they’re drunk. Hey, for me it’s still early in the morning, but if the OP is really in Europe they’ve had more time to tie one on.