No really, tell me what you really think ^^;; As per your “advice,” I suggest the ignore feature.
As much fun as it would be, I dont want to get into a drawn-out argument, because all that will do is fuel the people who think I posted this merely for attention-mongering purposes, which I didn’t.
LaToya?
So you posted it because… :dubious: ?
I got honestly fed up with UVPS, unnecessarily vitriolic pile-on syndrome. I thought (apparently mistakely) that many other people would be too.
So far as I know, the only philosophy officially endorsed by the Straight Dope Message Board is, “Fight ignorance.”
I’m sure people are, but we’ve had several other threads bitching about the same thing. People have expressed their annoyance in those threads. This one’s just a bit redundant. It seems to be that people are just getting sick of the whole thing at this point. (And I say this as just an observer of all of those other threads - not a participant…).
Your heart might have been in the right place, but I think your intentions were a bit misguided.
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Sure! But they only come out at night.
Probably, but my intent wasn’t to talk about that thread, but the larger phenomenon I thought I saw occur in it, the jackal-esque hate frenzy.
As for people being tired of hearing about it, IMO it seems like people want to have their cake and eat it too.
Don’t you have some kitchen utensils to molest?
Auto…
just, why?
Post#43
I think the question posed by bigbabysweets is bigger than the one you responded to in Post #43.
Oh, as in why do I even post in The Pit knowing my history here? Good question. Because I’m stupid and have too much energy I guess…
Gah, this thread is honestly not supposed to be about me, for fuck’s sake :mad: (not directed at you Qadgop). I gambled that people would want to talk about what I described in my OP, but I should have known that most people would take the easy road and just take pot shots at me :rolleyes: Stupid-ass me, guess I gambled wrong.
I knew it: Omerta!
Check to see if his ring has lip marks on it.
Auto: Good show. Too much venom for your point to come across, though. As a Pitting, it’s excellent – but unless I miss my guess, your entire point is that people should think twice before joining a condemnatory pile-on – and starting a mass condemnation is hardly the way to make that point.
Starving Artist: Amazingly, we see eye-to-eye. It’s not at all pretty to see ourselves as mirror images of those we find offensive for their condemnation of some groups of people, when we ourselves are condemning other groups – even the condemners.
I personally find Ms. Schen’s behavior and rationalized excuses for it reprehensible – not because she’s found love and hot monkey sex, but because she’s prepared to break promises, make excuses for breaking them, lie, cheat, and deceive. There are easier ways to find happiness than to act out old episodes of The Secret Storm in your own life.
But I honestly didn’t want to stand in judgment over her. Nor, bluntly, do I want to judge the people you and Auto are condemning for doing so.
We’re human, dude. We all have our faults. Best way to handle that fatal problem we all face, is to be supportive, not condemnatory, when possible, and try to show how the course of action will assuredly cause problems and guide away from it, ideally without sounding supercilious in doing so, when you really think that speaking up about something is needed.
And that is damn tough to pull off. So a bit of forgiveness, possibly with a little venting, is what’s in order.
And it does cross ideological lines. The conservatives around here are just as quick to presume evil motives as are the liberals – the “Usual Suspects” of Shodan’s phrase and the people who complain about them are wearing the same bullseye vests.
Which, of course, includes me – I’ve done my share of bitching and joining pile-ons too. As, on occasion, have you.
Like I said, it’s called being human. I’m inclined to forgive myself, you, and everybody else for succumbing to the temptation.
What do you think?
Then stop it with the idiot contentless OP’s. Opening a forum these days and seeing one of more of your “pay attention to me” threads is like walking into a room to find a yapping little toy dog bouncing up and down and lolling its tongue in its desperate eagerness to be wanted, then watching it squirming about and yelping before trying to hump your leg - try to shake it off, and it rolls on its back wagging its tail and sporting a tiny pink erection. You know, the kind of little dog that you want to kick across the room. Jesus, better a jackal than a Pomeranian.
“…In Shodans phrase…”, my ass!
Fuckin’ right, damn Patrick Springs college kids, always throwing up in the rosebushes!
alright, try to cite more than that one example. Try to cite any other “UVPS” attacks in recent memory (recent, as in within the time frame suggested by your OP).
All I can come up with is that
A) this is a veiled reference to the recent RSS affair (and thus tired, and played out)
B) A generic attack with the intention of bringing attention to you with an overwrought OP (just cause it’s the Pit doesn’t mean you have to go over the top, and you already tried to deny that it was an attention whore)
C) you believe you have a valid point.
Thing is, obviously nobody else has quite seen this problem (most telling, the people who have been on the board/lurking longer than me, and longer than you’ve apparently been actively posting).
Looking at the top page of pitting, in fact, I don’t see ANYBODY on the dope piling on except for RSS. I recall recently that you got jumped in the pit, but you had defenders, so that doesn’t really fall in to your OP. If you can come up with better examples of the problem, you might be able to start a case and get some pit-style debate on it. As it stands, you might be trying to make a good point, but there doesn’t seem to be any call to arms for the rest of to rally behind.
As an aside, I generally like your posts, so I’m not jumping you, I’m trying to reasonably explain the flaws that might be causing the thread to not be turning out the way you wanted.
I’m confused - being a liberal means you can’t be a jerk? Dammit. I’m all for business regulation, but not if I can’t be a jackass. Conservatives, here I come!
Yeah, I kinda got carried away and shot my OP in the face by doing so :smack: You’re totally right, as usual, and your post is excellent and wise.
Can I call you my Dope Role Model, oh Woman of the Many Fish? (I think you’re a woman anyway, right?) blush