Seriously though, what would you expect on a tread based on bad behaviour of posters, which then goes on to wish for anally raping people with foreign objects? The OP refuses to discuss specifics, and then only do so when called the same adjetive as he uses himself and he throws a tizzy fit in the mean time. Our Hall Monitors condemn others, but only “suggest” that the OP is over the line, regardless of the fact that he’s gone much, much further than anyone in the MizGrand - Don’t You Love That Name, but I’m reformed now thread ever when, but that’s OK, because we are Jackels and they are Hall Monitors. It’s OK for our Hall Monitors to refuse to Put Up or Shut up, but they demand that of others or to bitch of sexism while doing the same. They are the Hall Monitors, so they’re special, aren’t they?
Ah, fuck the spelling on the post. I tried to edit but it had timed out.
“That’s some sculpted-eyebrow homos, there…”
Oh, come on, ETF. There’s a HUGE difference between dragging someone into the Pit who never intended their post to wind up there and eviscerating them ad nauseum in a pile-on orgy of self-righteous cruelty, and in my going after someone with whom there is long-standing mutual enmity and who came after me first to begin with, or in trading insults with people who insult me in the Pit in a typical Pit-style back and forth exchange of insults.
Why is this distinction so difficult to comprehend? Coming from others, I viewed it merely as a disingenuous attempt to say I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I, but I have enough respect for your intelligence and sincerety to genuinely wonder.
Clearly a lot of people do NOT think there is a huge difference. Perhaps you are clinging to that illusory “difference” in order to rationalize behavior that you claim to despise in others.
No one drags anyone anywhere. No one forces anyone to read or post in the Pit. Why can’t you just accept that and stop mischaracterizing how things went? There was a give and take in that thread; it was not simply a stoning as you depict. And how do you know what MizGrand intended? There is a school of thought that would hold that she wanted people to take her to task. Sure, that’s armchair psychoanalyzing on my part, but if you can speculate as to the motives to others, so can I.
If you preach kindness and tolerance, then you should practice it. If you want to pour vitriol on people, then do it. But it’s not up to you to tell others that you vitriol is 100% copacetic and theirs is jackalish and wrong. That seems hypocritical.
If enough people tell you that you’re coming off in a certain way, maybe the best thing to do is reflect on the truth of the matter, instead of continuing to contend that what you’re doing is right. Lots of people in this thread have pointed out your hypocrisy in this thread. Might be worth reflecting on it.
Or perhaps those people are among the ones being criticized and want to excuse their behavior, or they simply want a platform from which to fire barbs at me. Or at least that is how it appears to me.
There is more I’d like to say as there are other aspects of your post I’d like to address, such as the fact that your words to the effect of my preaching kindness and tolerance is a mischaracterization of my stance, but I have to leave now and will likely be gone for most of the day. Perhaps I can elucidate ( 
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Sorry, SA, but you are wrong and Rubystreak is correct on all counts. Not that I expect you to accept that any more than you’ve accepted my previously expressed opinion, or any other opinion that doesn’t mesh precisely with your sadly distorted version of reality.
I wash my hands of you.
You know, ETF, there are reasons why people disagree. I’m inclined to think it’s because in the case of subjective points of view, there is no absolute or definitive right or wrong. Thus, it’s easy for one to feel that their own POV is the only correct one when in fact it isn’t. It’s all really a matter of opinion, and I’ve stated my opinions on this subject and how I’ve come to arrive at them. You have chosen to ignore them and to cling to the opinions of those who disagree with me, and that’s fine. But don’t expect me to be wounded when you decide that your subjective opinion on this subject is more valuable than genuine friendship. If you are so wedded to the view that unless I come around to your POV we can’t be friends, I’ll simply have to say goodbye - as much as it might pain me to do so.
Well, no. I agree with Rubystreak and I don’t think anyone has found any of my posts particularly jackal-ish or mean - at least none of them have been mentioned.
Really, I don’t think you can have it both ways without looking like a tool. If you want people to post nothing but sweetness and light, but suggest that they do it by calling them goat-felching toilet-whores (sorry - that STILL cracks my shit up), your message probably isn’t going to be very well received.
StarvingArtist, in the past I’ve found many of your posts quite mean-spirited. That you’re now accusing other posters of the same offense is…interesting. Perhaps you should point that finger of condemnation at yourself before you start jumping on other people’s behaviour. The same could be said for QG, who I’m convinced is trolling the board and nothing else, as well as Autolycus.
As I said to Rubystreak above, the assertion that I am preaching sweetness and light is a mischaracterization of my stance. More later if desired.
On second thought, screw it. I’ve explained myself ad infinitum. There’s no point in going over it for the umpteenth time. Either you see the point I’m making or you don’t.
Think what you will.
Starving Artist: I am not trying to hurt you, or throw barbs at you. Honestly, before this thread you were not on my radar. The points I am making to you are all rhetorical in nature, not personal. I am pointing out flaws in your stance here because I disagree with the larger point about conduct in the Pit. You chose to side with QG and judge others for their behavior, stating humanitarianism as a motive. You must then be ready to have your behavior scrutinized by those standards. There is a glaring inconsistency between your stated opinion on how people acted in the MizGrand thread and how you’ve acted in this thread. You refuse to see how people can and do feel justified using vitriol in certain situations in the Pit, unless they are YOUR situation. I wish you could just try to see my point and put aside whatever personal negativity has accumulated.
No worries. I honestly wasn’t thinking of you or any other poster in particular when I made that comment, and I appreciate your words and tone.
The overall problem seems to be that certain people are adopting the view that I can’t criticize other for meanness when if I engage in it myself, whereas my position is that it’s a matter of context, degree and circumstance (i.e., did the recipient approach me and ask for it, or was someone dragged into the Pit for evisceration). We can and do disagree over these finer points, but to say that one can’t be mean (for want of a better term) under certain conditions unless he’s willing to condone any and all meaness in others just doesn’t compute to me.
Like I said, I have to leave but I will attempt to give your words the consideration they deserve when I return…probably tonight.
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That portion was not directed at you, it was directed at the OP, who I think has left.
However, the rest was directed at you. You’ve posted some really mean shit on these boards. That you feel the object of your ire “deserved it” or that the “situation was different” or “they were asking for it” or “they were mean first” really doesn’t mean shit. You’ve been mean and nasty in many of your posts here since you signed up. That you’re calling people out for meanness is rich, to say the least.
You’re being a hypocrite, and willfully obtuse if you refuse to see that.
Have you purposefully not read my later posts in this thread? I’ve posted my OP again with examples and sans-vitriol. Look at Post#360, 364, 385, and 470.
Again, I’m not wishing anal rape on anyone…
What the fuck? Care to go into more detail how I am a troll? Call me juvenile, attention-whorish, over-the-top, droll, cliched, self-righteous, and I will agree with you to a large extent, but trolling is way off base.
As you can tell, I’m still participating in this thread. I’m not posting a lot because I have no real opinion on the current fight in this thread. I said my piece (poorly), explained myself 9 pages later, people debated that for 2 pages, and now we’re back to the same old shit that filled the first 8 pages in this thread.
Troll? Grrrr… that irks me.
You’re not a troll. QG is. You are a little quick off the gun though. 
Edited to add: - in your OP you were condeming people for being mean, while at the same time being mean yourself, is where the “same as Autolycus” came from. Not that you were trolling. I just re-read my post and saw how it could be misunderstood.
Pssst! Dude, read the phrase again, I think she’s specifically talking about Quiddity.
DOH! :smack: :smack: :smack:
My apologies! I totally misread your post. Indeed, I need to work on my “brain-finger” barrier more still
Indeed, my OP was craptacularly self-defeating. Oh well =/
So umm… how you doin’? 
You’re welcome.