Jeb Bush - I have a hard time believing that you're actually a human being.

Do you honestly believe it’s even remotely possible he had some knowledge that the mother would pull through that the doctors did not? That his decision wasn’t purely political and she only survived through luck?

Does Jeb Bush have medical training I’m unaware of?

So, hypothetically speaking, if I tried to run you down in the street and missed, you’d be okay with it? After all, whatever my intention might have been, everything turned out okay in the end, right?

Scenario doesn’t fit. I don’t believe Bush was doing this intending for the woman to die.

If what he did was so horribly wrong, why aren’t there hearings and such.
Or are there?

If he really cared, then why did he not also apoint a guardian to the woman as WELL as her fetus?

Seems to me he cares more about pandering to the pro-life crowd than he does about a rape victim who is severely retarded.

And that sickens me. These people are so obsessed with the unborn, but don’t seem to give a shit about the born.

That’s not the point. I did something that almost killed you. Does the fact that I didn’t succeed excuse the action?

Wether or not his actions were legal does not make them right.

pkbites, are you willing to say to this young woman, “Your mother was so severely mentally retarded she is incapable of understanding that she gave birth to you and your father was suffering from senile dementia so severe he may not remember conceiving you, and your conception resulted from a rape?” Are you willing to force victims of rape to give birth any children which result from that act? Do you think a woman should die because she was a victim of rape?

You know, I really wish that last was an exaggeration. Unfortunately, given what was known at the time Jeb Bush appointed a guardian for the child and not the mother, the evidence in hand suggested it was likely she would die. As others have said, he had no way of knowing if the mother would survive the pregnancy. He is, in effect requiring that the victim of a crime die rather than the person who committed it.

I’m too appalled to be polite.
CJ

“Scarecrow franchise” = many strawmen.

Just trying to help out…

Risking killing the mother on the other hand, is apparently okie-dokie in your book though.

You could just as easily flip that script, though, and you’d still be between the exact same rock and hard place. Is it better to “force” a woman to give birth or to “force” a woman to have an abortion? How well does a one year old recover from being raped and then having her cervix dilated and her fetus ripped from her womb by a vacuum?

Not that I’m saying that I agree with what Bush did; despite my strong pro-life convictions I do not, but that particular argument isn’t terribly compelling to me.

I am compelled to being appalled at Bush for his abuse of his office and his attempt at making end-runs around the separation of powers, just as in the Terri Schiavo case. At least there, however, there are some mitigating circumstances; in this case there do not seem to be which makes the governor’s act all the more egregious. But I’m having a hard time finding anger because J.D.S. and her baby both lived.

If she has a much less chance of death from the abortion than the pregnancy, then I’d have no problem “forcing” her to have an abortion.