JohnClay, if I might have a word... (not about dieting, I promise)

Just curious. What’s your final position on the overall relevancy of a JC Pitting? Good? Bad? Deserved? Who the fuck gives a fuck?

I’m more horrified by his singing than any cited post of his.

Supposedly, he has said some horrible things worthy of a pitting. For some reason, the sanctimonious peanut gallery here can’t provide cites. But they love to nitpick grammar and the scientific accuracy of hypothetical advice being given by some random person’s dad.

/shrug

Read the thread, you dumb fucking stupid.

Stringbean is asking for quotes from the depression thread:

The OP quoted this as a problem:

The OP’s response was:
“(And my grandmother recommended a slug of whiskey to quiet a teething baby. Administered to the baby, not the mother.)”

Perhaps their point is that the advice is bad but it was given from a third-party.

For the next quote they said:
“(“OHAI chance to talk about myself and prove why everyone else on the dope thinks I’m a creepy, annoying, self-absorbed fuck! Also I’m an expert on relationships because I have an available vagina.”)”

That doesn’t prove that my advice is bad…

“(Sugarbeet, I wouldn’t trust you to diagnose King Tut’s mummy with death, let alone the root cause of someone’s depression.)”

They didn’t disprove that external validation could be an issue for the person.

“and basically accusing him of being a Nice Guy (in the not nice sense) in post 16.”

On the issue of being a nice guy:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19276731&postcount=79

In post 44 wolfpup accused me of “dangerously bad advice-giving” but where in the depression thread (or some other thread) is that dangerously bad advice?

I agree, this just doesn’t seem to justify a pitting.

Quasimodal is going to hear much worse advice on talk radio and just about anywhere else.

You might have hit on an inspiring new motto for the board: “Might be better than talk radio”. When it comes to setting high standards of intelligent discourse, “aim for the stars” is what I always say! :smiley:

Lel.

Just hit “Reply” and cite the bat-shit posts of JohnClay you deem worthy of this Pitting.

Don’t send a link to a 10-page thread and say “read the thread.” That’s lazy trash.

There are other dumb fucking stupids in here who haven’t been convinced yet. Do us all a favor and cite the specific posts that prove JohnClay worthy of this Pitting.

Hey JohnClay, I was putting together a long reply to try and show you exactly where your comments come across as self-absorbed and completely tone deaf. I decided that it was likely pointless.

Short version:

Don’t tell depressed people to jump out of airplanes. It will be seen as a very morbid joke that implies they should just go ahead and kill themselves.

Don’t tell someone that has lost a serious relationship that, wow, you have a serious relationship and it’s super-sparkle-fun time awesome. This is the advice equivalent of kicking someone when they’re down.

Whether you meant it or not, your posts in that thread were spiteful and mean-spirited. Continuing to question why other people see them that way is either trolling or reveals a complete lack of understanding about social interactions.

Please stop being an asshole and leave relationship advice alone.

Accidental phone post

My friend’s dad happened to be talking about it while I was browsing the thread. I thought it was relevant but I guess I didn’t put much thought into it. As far as what it implies, Trinopus and Stringbean didn’t agree:

In post 13 I wrote:
" …I didn’t even hold a girl’s hand until I was about 28 and now I’ve been happily married to that girl for 3.5 years…I don’t let that bring me down anymore because I’ve got a lover. I know you don’t but I’m sure you will soon"

See that last part? I am saying that since I was able to find my partner despite having zero dating history he should surely be able to since he does have a better history.

Only the second part of your post was relevant to relationship advice (not the sky-diving comment). On that topic:

I can’t decide if he’s simply an asshole or a troll. Poe’s law and all that.

My money in on troll, but I know plenty of really crazy people IRL, so who knows.

But, you were right, it’s pointless. If he’s a troll, then we’re feeding him and if he’s that self-absorbed then nothing we can do or say will change him.

You’re so stupid.

Besides me mentioning my friend’s dad’s comment about skydiving without thinking it through very thoroughly I don’t think I was an “asshole” in that depression thread.

When ddsun said “This is the advice equivalent of kicking someone when they’re down” he didn’t notice when I said in that post “I know you [the depressed guy] don’t [have a lover] but I’m sure you will soon”.

“Meant to be helpful” means I’m not trying to be an asshole.

On the other hand I am sometimes an asshole to my wife as a form of “cocky comedy”. But then sometimes she overpowers me and says “stop hitting yourself”. At least she doesn’t do that too often though.

A heads up - I gave the guy more advice: (though it is partly repeated)
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19295911&postcount=30
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19295912&postcount=31

I fixed the Wikipedia link and added a bit more here:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19295915&postcount=32

I’m also currently having a ketogenic diet! :slight_smile:

I think he’s back.

Yes, I did report my suspicion.

Nothing more commendable than snitching on someone for absolutely no good reason, Skywatcher Trump. :rolleyes:

4kad just joined and very quickly got fixated on dieting and food. ISTM that combined with the posting style in the linked thread are good reasons to suspect a JC sock.

That isn’t any reason to bring back the Pit thread on him.

Dude was banned because his mental illness was so bad that the mods thought it was unhealthy for him to post here. Even if it is him, he doesn’t need this shit started up again.

The mods can take care of it. They made their bed in allowing themselves to ban someone who didn’t break any of the rules, and now they have to deal with it.