jtur88 telling special needs kid to "get over" being assaulted

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I never thought I’d be a pitting person, but jtur88’s behaviour in this thread has my blood boiling.

A trained professional who is supposed to be looking out for a kid with issues violating that trust is beyond deplorable. For you to be more concerned about what may happen to the person who screwed up than for the kid who was mistreated is unfathomable to me.

Your obsession with labelling the involvement of the justice system “revenge” is utterly ridiculous. Your claim that “firing or imprisoning anybody is not going to undo anything that has already occurred” is even more misguided. See, you think it’s an important lesson for the kid to learn that when horrible, illegal things happen, he should just “get over it”. But what you are being strangely obtuse about is that we have a child in crisis, who needs to know that he can depend on the adults in his life who are specifically there to help and protect him, which includes his parents, the aide, and the police. One of those has already let him down, in a major way. If the rest do as well, then what he’s actually learning is that his needs and rights are unimportant, that he can’t trust anyone, and that actions don’t have consequences.

The other thing you’re not understanding is that how this is or isn’t handled impacts future incidents as well. You say, ”Our system of “justice” destroyed their lives forever, but their victims got over it and moved on. Where’s the justice?” You don’t seem to understand what justice is. Again, somehow you think the only reason to pursue charges is for revenge, but it’s bigger than that. In our society, we have certain expectations of how people should behave, and of how safe and secure we should be able to feel. In this situation, we have a six year old child, with known issues, who did not do anything wrong, and a grown adult specifically there to protect and help this child, who physically attacked him. That is the very definition of unfair, and there are actual, specific laws and consequences in place to prevent this exact thing. If we look the other way, then what stops this from just being a normal thing that happens all the time? Maybe there needs to be more training or support for workers who are dealing with challenging kids. Maybe it’s not the right job for people who don’t have the right temperament for it. Maybe there needs to be closer monitoring or evaluations. But if we just “get over” something like that, then not only will nothing improve, but it can only cause things to get worse for other kids and other aides. Where is the justice indeed.

But, the thing that pisses me off the most is your dickish insensitivity to this kid and his parents. ”So deal with his special needs”, you say. Well, fuck you. Part of “dealing” with it is having a trustworthy support system in place. This aide violated that in a way that has not only been unhelpful in furthering his development, but has actually undone years of hard fucking work that this kid and his parents have done. You clearly have no idea how devastating that is, and whether you think the aide should be punished for it or not, your flippant, dismissive attitude is shitty as hell.

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I blame the dumpster dived mushrooms gone psychotropic he eats for that crazy post.

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I applaud your effort in putting together a proper pitting. Good form, good subject.
However, JTurd is what happens when the 15th century suddenly gets the internet.
Carry on.

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I pitted him in the Omnibus Troll thread for this.

Christ, what an asshole.

He isn’t helping anything in that thread at all, just being a jerk.

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He’s very concerned that everyone show compassion for the aide who assaulted a 6 use old, and had fuck all compassion for the child or the parents.

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To paraphrase what I said in that thread, he sounds like the kind of guy who rages that he wouldn’t be being punished if it weren’t for that asshole who narc’d on him.

Guilty people’s lives were ruined by the justice system while their victim’s lives went on! :rolleyes: Fucking moron.

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jturd is a pathetic old man who never amounted to anything. Acting the contrarian on this board is his way of making his mark on the world.

He thinks he comes off as a wise old sage, dispensing good old fashioned “common sense” to the masses. He’s just a decrepit old loser who ought to be kept in someone’s attic.

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By that logic, we wouldn’t prosecute any crimes.

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Yeah, he’s a fucking ass. :slight_smile:

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From his numerous comments on the justice system over the years, I think that probably is his view.

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I wonder if the move to the Philippines went all to hell. He settled down for a brief period, but now he’s back to the same old nastiness.

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To jtur88 I would say this: You have no argument because there is no argument. It is our solemn duty as adults to protect our children and vigorously and decisively confront those who would harm them. It’s as simple as that. There are no “ifs ands or buts”, and there are no excuses.

When parents or other caretakers send their children to school/daycare/summer camp/whatever, the prime directive is to provide a SAFE and NURTURING environment. It is a sacred trust. Nothing less can be tolerated, and anyone who fails to maintain that standard has to be dealt with. When it comes to those who would harm our children, I’m a “hangin’ judge”.

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I will expand a comment I made inthe original thread - I dearly hope that there is no one who is vulnerable who depends on his idea of “justice”.

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Makes me wonder if he isn’t a sex offender who thinks the justice system unfairly tags people like him for life as such.

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It requires a lifetime of commitment for the disabled. My niece is now 57 years old (with a mental age of a not-very-bright 12-year-old), and her siblings, who are now her guardians since my sister died, remain vigilant. I remember about 20 years ago when she came home from work and told her mother that she had been going to lunch with a coworker and he had asked her out for dinner. My sister promptly went to the office and confronted the guy, telling him in no uncertain terms that his behavior was unacceptable, and that if she heard of this happening again, she’d report him. She lives “independently”, as they say, but it takes a huge amount of work behind the scenes for her to remain so. If her brother and sister take their eye off the ball for even a moment, shit goes sideways in a blink.

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So, she is never allowed to have a relationship with anyone?

That’s pretty sad. If there was a particular reason why he was abusing or mistreating her, then surem, I understand, and vetting him and even keeping tabs on the relationship is understandable.

But that it is unacceptable for her to ever go out on a date is pretty messed up.

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Maybe he’s Jared!

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My 17 year old niece is in a similar position and my sister and BIL are working hard to make sure that she has the skills, assets and legal papers in place to be cared for.

She does go on dates. With special needs guys her own age.

If I’m still alive when she’s 50 and some regular schmoe was putting the moves on her, I’d pay him a visit too, and I’m only her uncle. She doesn’t have the life skills or the intellect to deal with some guy just trying to get some by taking advantage of her.

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Oh yeah, vigilance, I understand. I mean, there are those out there who like to take advantage of the vulnerable, and those with lower mental facilities are some of the easiest to take advantage of. They do need protection.

But not so much that they don’t get to have any of the experiences that make slogging their way through this life worthwhile.

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I don’t understand, and I’m clearly wasting my time trying, why jtur was insisting this was about anyone getting revenge. I saw no signs that it was. It was about preventing that aide from working with kids. It was about demonstrating to that child that other adults, and the school, and the system has his back so he feels safe. It’s about trust.

jtur has no understanding of special needs kids or kids in general. He’s said before that he likes to be contrarian in threads. In this case, I think it was outright trolling. Miserable, bitter, nasty asshole.