Kanicbird. Yeah, It's probably pointless, but..

Beautiful.

I for one dig Kanicbird. These days it takes courage to stand up for what you believe in.

There’s a guy at my work that wears a yarmulke every day. Although we have different beliefs I told him one day what I thought about him wearing it religiously. That it takes courage to stand tall for what you believe in.

People die like dogs every day for being of a color, religion or sexual preference. I consider myself privileged to be able to be myself without being persecuted for it.

No it doesn’t, not unless he happens to live in work in Skinheadtown or something.

This, times infinity. I don’t even understand why anyone would bother responding to anything he/she posts. Kanicbird’s clearly not listening, not interesting, and not intelligent enough to process the information.

As I understand it, all kanicbird does is faithfully adhere to the letter of Old Testament as best she can. The problem is with the book.

You wear one everyday too?

Sounds like you’re an expert.

Stop grumbling about kanicbird. I’m trying to have a serious discussion here!

No, I think kanicbird is open about having come up with some of ___ own interpretations. See this thread. There’s nothing wrong with making your own version of what the Bible means, and kanicbird may be a literalist on some points, but one others ___ is definitely not taking the OT literally.

Courage, alone, is not always worthy of respect. Courage tied to a good cause is noteworthy; courage tied to a bad one is noteworthy for other reasons. Beyond that, it’s easy to be courageous when you think the universe is standing behind you so strongly, as kanicbird appears to. I’ve never seen him express any doubts that what he thinks might be wrong, or in his interpretations, or on God backing him up. To go with your example, it would be like a guy in a yarmulke walking down the street in a protective bubble with 50 armed guards. Courage is easy when you think you’ve got someone backing you up.

kanicbird’s religious views come from kanicbird, not anybody else’s interpretation of scripture.

No, but I know the definition of the word courage, and wearing a hat every day that signifies you as beloning to a religion is not courage. How does doing so pose a difficulty, danger, pain, etc., that is faced without fear? Why should this guy fear wearing a yarmulke?

I’ve had coworkers that wore their yarmulke every day. I don’t understand the place **Omegaman **lives where this is an act of bravery.

Where in the hell do you come up with that example? When I walk down the street I am subject to the same hate that everybody else is.

I am just one man, he is just one man, just like everybody on the rest of this fucking shithole world.

Are you referring to the law or something? You either stand your ground or bow down just like everybody else in this world.

Because you judge his beliefs as not worthy of your respect that just shows me you are willing to cast judgement on another because you disagree with their beliefs.

It’s your right to do so, and I wouldn’t judge you for it.

Enjoy your high horse while you’re on it.

With any luck you won’t have a clue what I’m talking about.

This is not courage. I bet he was pissed that you thought it was, though.

That pretty much sums up what we do here.

Though I think kanicbird is-- well, I can’t say, there are ladies present–his/her position isn’t COMPLETELY devoid of logic. Its just that his/her premises are different from ours.

If you believe in spiritual or mystical connections between persons, and further believe that morality is precisely and only what God ordains, then kanicbird’s position on the sins of the father attaching to the sons makes perfect sense.

He’s hardly the only person I know who feels this way. Last night, for instance, I overheard a conversation between my uncle and my not-quite-stepdaughter
in which he told her, in all seriousness, that the very act of sexual union between a man and a woman connects them spiritually forever (he was explaining why, in his view, premarital sex is not merely immoral but dangerous).

Now, I think both kanicbird and my uncle are…touched…on issues like this. But they’re not making arguments that are entirely illogical (even though both arguments are idiotic).

Actually no agreement was involved. Gabriel told Mary she was going to bear the Christ-child; it’s not like God was asking her permission. She was just chattel, after all.

This quote demonstrates not only the cruelty of the God some worship, but yet again how they completely fail to understand the concept of omnipotence.

Even us lowly humans have figured out a way to get kids from unfit parents without murdering them. We create things like child protective service agencies, that are certainly not perfect, but better than “taking them directly out”.

An omnipotent/omniscient infinitely loving God could not think of a better way? I bet without even trying, everybody reading this has come up with 2 or 3 better ways a God could fix this situation that does not involve killing the children.

Yet some still insist on taking this medieval nonsensical mythology as literal fact.

Omegaman, can you please explain why you think wearing yarmulke at work is brave.

Either the place you work at is scary or you are still in the act of overcoming some old prejudices. If the second, good for you and I hope you reach the point where you realize that wearing a yarmulke at work is not an act of bravery but just something slightly out of the ordinary.

The closer you get to NYC, the more yarmulkes you would see in work situations.

Forget the yarmulkes, forget the theology, the important question yet unanswered is, is the pittee male or female? Because I’ve just been assuming female.