See #s 3 and 6.
http://www.jiu-jitsukingston.com/jukopurple.html
I’m relatively a neophyte to this brand of Jujitsu and I haven’t learned how to pronounce it properly yet so I’d mangle it. But the instructor just shows us how it can easily lead us to a head stomp. That’s not unusual in my experience. Such techniques were taught in Tae Kwan Do, Kung Fu and another guy who I studied with who taught me his own style which was essentially Jujitsu. Basically we usually put the knee on the side of the head in order to pin the person by keeping control of their arm. The difference between pinning for control and a head stomp is whether or not we let our weight drop.
Really? Seriously?
Understanding basic kinesiology is macho BS to you?
What’s so difficult about ‘twist hips, drop weight’?
Sure it’s tough on a moral level, but it’s pretty easy on a mechanical one. The hard part is getting the opponent under control and into position, from there it’s just a matter of twisting your hips and dropping your weight.
Of course, you end up in a position that very easily accommodates both options. It might be a difference in philosophy though. We were just taught mostly defensive actions, and it was enough to subdue the opponent, not beat the shit out of them. I see the point of explaining it as an alternative.
It also helps when they’re unconscious and laying on the floor.
Why are martial arts even being discussed here? The factor here were a bunch of hair-trigger assholes, not arcane fighting styles.
In this case I think it’s more the instructor, he just shows us the sequence and then he’ll elaborate on where one can go from there, often it’s a knee drop or heal to the temple. Also, this is one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met, definitely not the sort who would go out and do these things to people. I don’t want to give the impression that he wants to teach us to be bloodthirsty fiends. But the principle essentially is to keep them from getting up and coming after you so he shows you a bunch of your options.
Agreed, but there isn’t much more to be said. The reason they are being discussed is because people were trying to make it out like this was some sort of problem with Karate, and then the tangents unfolded in the way tangents do.
The basic fact is that Karate like other martial arts does teach you how to hurt people and how to hurt them seriously, but it’s also supposed to contain an element of self-discipline, IE, you don’t use these moves to hurt people unless you absolutely have to.
I guess I would just disagree with your second statement there. When people get beaten on the streets, they aren’t getting killed with armlocks or roundhouse headkicks or rear naked chokes. Generally they’re getting smashed in the face, pushed onto the ground and pummeled with feet/bottles/rebar/skateboards until they stop moving.
My conclusion is that what goes by the name Jiu Jitsu appears to be very different in different places :).
Japanese jui jitsu, which the above link is referencing, is significantly different than the now-popular Brazilian jui jitsu. Many Japanese throwing techniques ‘end’ with a faux coup de grace strike.
Right, that head stomp was a much more realistic fighting move than most of the stuff he did before that.
I think the distinction here is not so much Japanese vs. Brazillian, but sport vs. self-defense. Sport jiu jitsu doesn’t feature any striking.
This is probably the more accurate statement - ignorance fought.
I’m very interested to see where this story goes, however. I’m glad it’s broken through the major news channels - means there might be enough public scrutiny to get something started. Unless of course he lived in which case it’s all good, enjoy the hilarious video.
It’s still pretty fucked up watching a guy curb stomp a mentally imbalanced homeless man just because he thinks he can get away with it.
Could you please stand still while I use a gun to shoot that apple off your head?
Its just a matter of simple physics…surely you won’t mind…whats so difficult to understand about it?
Go back and re-read what I have written. You clearly haven’t.
I’ll even quote the relevant section for you.
Well, I won’t dig too deeply here as it’s quite off topic, and I haven’t been involved for some years now, so my memory is rusty. There are a few different competition forms, for example fighting, as well as duo where you demonstrate techniques in pairs and receive scores, with one attacker and one defender. We also had a competition form with only grappling on the ground.
The distinction isn’t really that simple as you said either, as there are many different schools with differing systems. There are different associations or federations with their own rules. I don’t know how uniform the international system is, if IJJF is the end all association or not. My point though is that there are variations even if it’s not for sport and competition.
All good? I’d still want that instructor locked up for what he did.
Statue of limitations, dude. If he did, in fact, live, there’s a chance that it’s all good.
Not that I’m disagreeing with anything you’re saying.
And hilarious?:dubious:
I see what you mean, though I still wouldn’t call it “all good” unless you’re speaking from a strictly legal standpoint.
Johnny L.A. mentioned that there is no statute of limitations for felonies over there. I’m pretty sure a serious assault like that would count.
BTW, what does the Statue of Limitations look like? 