Kate Bush 101 for Americans (Ask the Kate Bush fan)

Not legally, no. Not all of them were recorded between the age of 16 and 18. Many, if not most, of them were recorded earlier, before she got her record contract, and were what led to her being discovered by family friend Ricky Hopper, who then got David Gilmour involved. She has never said anything publically about those early demos (called the “Cathy Demos” by fans) that got leaked. Her perfectionist self is probably not happy about her crude piano/vocal recordings (in some you hear the click as the tape recorder comes on, then the scrape of the piano bench as she sits back down), but they all show original talent, and some of them are sublime. Some of those songs are among my favorites of hers.

Legally? No. In the spirit of posterity though, I’m glad they exist, and I would dearly love to hear the songs we haven’t heard yet. Call me a pirate and slap me upside the head, I don’t care. I want to hear them.

Gaffaweb (the woefully out-of-date repository of all things Kate) is still down, but we had a local copy and I uploaded it to a temporary mirror. This page has some great info about those early recordings. It was put together by a fan (more obsessed than me!) culling from several different sources.

Dung Beetle’s choices are good, but I’d go along with scott evil. The Whole Story is the way to go. It’s the closest to a Best Of release that we’ll ever get, short of a fan putting together a copy (I’ll volunteer, though my song choices would be entirely different). It has just about all her styles represented. If, by the end of it, you’re dying to hear more, then delve into the album that contains the song you like the most. They’re all good, though very different from each other (except The Kick Inside and Lionheart, which were released in the same year).

My personal favorite album is The Dreaming but it’s bizarre, difficult and experimental so I don’t know if I’d recommend it to beginners. It’s my desert island disc, if I could only take one album. It’s so packed with thoughts and ideas, sound effects and vocal effects, layers and layers of music and meanings, that I hear something new everytime I listen to it, even after all these years. It takes several listens to get into, and several more to begin to try and understand. It rewards patience and perserverance though.

Hounds of Love is my second favorite, especially the “B side” which is a concept piece called The Ninth Wave, consisting of 7 inter-related songs that tell a story of a woman adrift at sea, treading water, hope of rescue fading. She begins to hallucinate, and we’re drawn into nightmare visions of purgatory, and poignant reflections on the life lived and the life not to be lived, it seems. Brilliant stuff. Called pretentious by some critics (those who prefer their music to be shallow and meaningless, I think), it’s an aural movie, and how often do you get to experience something like that?

This blows my mind. David Gilmour (in 1973) shows up at Kate Bush’s parents house when she was 15, and starts recording demos!? :eek: Then later that year, Gilmour brings Kate over to his farm to record more demos!? :eek:

Not sure if Kate’s parents knew who Gilmour was at the time, but I know if that was me (as her father) I may have passed out. :wink:

That’s right up there with Randy California, at 15, playing five sets a night, for three months, with Jimi James & The Blue Flames, which featured a guy named Jimi Hendrix. :wink:

Anyway, I think I’m going to get The Whole Story.

Thanks guys!

Is Aerial truly a double-album? Do you mean a 2 CD set? The term double-album is rather meaningless nowadays, as probably most of today’s CD releases would require a double-vinyl album without taking a hit sonically.

That’s my favorite Kate Bush ‘side’ as well. The Morning Fog is just the perfect ending song. Watching You Without Me is another gem and I don’t even understand the last bunch of lyrics. Sounds like something or other played backwards. I have the album on my studio computer and it seems like at least once a week I play bass along with those two songs and it’s a happy time.

It truly is a double-album. There will be 2 CDs, and a double-LP will be available (in the UK at least).

The first CD is said to be “just Kate songs” while the 2nd CD is a concept piece. No one knows what the concept is yet. Here’s a track listing:

Disc One: A SEA OF HONEY

  1. King Of The Mountain
  2. Pi [this should be the symbol, not letters]
  3. Bertie
  4. Mrs. Bartolozzi
  5. How To Be Invisible
  6. Joanni
  7. A Coral Room

Disc Two: A SKY OF HONEY

  1. Prelude
  2. Prologue
  3. An Architect’s Dream
  4. The Painter’s Link
  5. Sunset
  6. Aerial Tal
  7. Somewhere In Between
  8. Nocturn
  9. Aerial

We know what King of the Mountain sounds like (it’s on iTunes) but have only heard talk about a couple of the others. “Pi” (if the person who said they heard it is to be believed) is Kate singing the numbers of Pi. Since many people have said over the years that they would listen to Kate singing the phone book, this might be a quite humorous test of that. “Joanni” is supposed to be about Joan of Arc, and is said to be very atmospheric.

“Bertie” is about her 7-year old son, while “Mrs. Bartolozzi” might be about Therese Jansen Bartolozzi, who inspired works by Joseph Haydn.

No one’s heard the 2nd disc yet. No one who’s talking anyway. “Aerial Tal” might contain Indian-influenced rhythms and instruments. I hope!

That’s it as far as fact and speculation regarding the album at the moment.

This page from my temporary Gaffaweb mirror might help you:

Watching You Without Me lyrics

Who would win in a fight, Kate Bush or Bjork?

Kate. She could run her voice up the scales and cause Bjork’s head to explode (not that that would be a bad thing).

Neither, because Kate’s not violent and Bjork adores Kate.

No more of these please, and no more Bjork-bashing. I love Bjork.

Well thats just an awful question isn’t it. Bjork fans are quite often Kate fans (as am I) and choosing between the two just isn’t viable. They’d probably make music out of it all drools over the thought of a Kate/Bjork duo.

I imagine that Bjork is fiestier, but Kate has more experience.

Same here. There are a lot of people I’d love to see Kate duet with: Bjork, Happy Rhodes, Rufus Wainwright, David Sylvian, Jane Siberry, Tom Waits, and Peter Gabriel (again) are just a few.

Every male heterosexual spectator.

[Sorry, but that answer was just so obvious I just had to do it.]

I wasn’t Bjork bashing.
I’m no Kate fan although I admit that like most Americans I haven’t heard much of her stuff. I’ve heard her new single, King of the Hill, (King of the Mountain?), either way, the song, to me is totally forgetable. Yes it is clear that she has a good voice but the song itself was very flat. It seemed to me like a strange choice to have this be a ‘comeback’ single.

What do you like about it?

I didn’t consider that you were (though I didn’t want to see a slew of Kate vs. Sinead/Alanis/Tori/Britney/whoever posts). I was speaking more to Mr. Blue Sky, who said:

That’s definitely Bjork-bashing, and, though I’m sure it wasn’t intentional, would cause Bjork fans consternation because of this event in 1996:

(cite from a Salon article)

Again, I know it wasn’t intentional, but it was shocking to me, which is why I said no more Bjork-bashing.

That’s tough to answer, for a few reasons. For one, I’m terrible at describing music and describing what I like about music. I admire people who can. Two, I’m a fan, so anything I say will come off sounding eye-rollingly fannish. The last thing I want to do is end up in that “annoying fandom” thread.

I will say a few things about it. Like many of Kate’s songs, it takes multiple listenings to appreciate. The first time I heard it I was thrilled just because it was a new song after so many years of nothing at all. I didn’t really get to like then love the song until I’d heard it a few times. Some parts of it I didn’t like at all for a while.

I didn’t like the slurring of the words at the beginning. After I read the lyrics and figured out what the song was about that helped me to know what she was doing. The song is about Elvis. It’s actually about fame, and how it can destroy a person, but on the surface it’s about Elvis. I realized that the slurring was her attempt at an Elvis accent so I find it funny now. Kate has a very weird sense of humor.

No one would know that it’s supposed to be an Elvis accent unless they delved, and who’s going to delve unles they’re fanatical Kate fans? Without the Elvis context, it just sounds like slurry words. Tori does that, and I hate it when Tori does that, so that took a while to get over. By the 3rd line of the song, her vocals are crystal clear. She only does it again later, when she’s “talking” to Elvis.

Lyrically it’s a hope that Elvis is finally at peace, away from the pressures of fame, including the constantly hounding tabloids. She uses references to Rosebud in the snow, which Citizen Kane fans will get, and the still persistant rumor that Walt Disney is on ice, waiting to be revived. “Elvis are you out there somewhere, looking like a happy man?” It’s all fairly simple on the surface, but can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, and has an even deeper meaning the more you know about Kate and what she went through with the British tabloids and music press.

Musically, it’s a subtle build that starts out slow and gets stronger as the song goes along, which goes along with the lyrics (desperately wanting Elvis to be finally happy, then hoping that Elvis is finally happy, then being certain that Elvis is finally happy, at least that’s how I hear it). I like how there’s one rhythm in one channel and a completely different rhythm in the other channel, that combine into a subtle but interesting 3rd rhythm. I like the sound effects, such as the wind blowing, which goes along with the lyrics (“the wind is whistleing through the house” which could be a reference to Graceland, Neverland, the fictional Kane’s San Simion, or any big house that a famous person would lock themselves into: “why does a multi-millionaire fill up his home with priceless junk?”).

I love how she sings “The wind is whistleing, the wind is whistleing through…the…house.”

I love how she draws out the “…mountaaaaaain nooooooowwwwww” near the end and the “ooh” and the slightly surreal background vocals.

Finally, I love the way she sings “The wind it blows, the wind it blows the door closed.”

And I realize that none of that is any help at all in trying to make you hear how I hear it, but it’s the best I can do. If you go to http://www.katebush.com and you have Flash, you can hear those ending bits. The quality of the sound is crap, but you can hear the bits I’m talking about. Too bad about the quality. They’d do Kate justice if they put the non-messed-with version up, because the song, for all its effort to be “mainstream” with the drum track, is very atmospheric, and has all kinds of sonic goodies going on in the background.

In any case, no matter what, and I realize this is the fan as well as the long-time Kate Bush fan speaking, I fully expect “King of the Mountain” to be the most “mainstream” track on the album. Almost all her singles have been like that. If you don’t like it because it’s too weird, you probably wouldn’t like the album. If you don’t like it because it seems too mainstream, you might like the album.

If I think of something more articulate later, I’ll post. Maybe someone else who has heard the song, loves it, and is a better writer than I am, can answer.

If it wasn’t intentional, hpow could it be called “bashing”? :confused:

It isn’t bashing, it is a thing which has no simply, one-word name for it. “Talk whicch may be offensive to others”

I’m sorry, I didn’t make myself clear. He was definitely Bjork-bashing with the “not that that would be a bad thing”, but I don’t think he meant to evoke Ricardo Lopez (the “fan” who tried to kill her) by saying “cause Bjork’s head to explode.”

He probably didn’t even know about it. But the wording would immediately bring up the horror of what might have been to fans.

It’s early. tired yawn

I definitely didn’t know that!

It was just a joke (think exploding Muppets). Maybe not a funny joke, but that was the intention.

I don’t dislike Bjork. Her, uh, unusual vocal stylings make run for the mute button, though.

No offense intended to Bjork fans!

That’s what I figured. We’re cool.