Know ignorance, Know peace

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Jb, what’s your point? Are you looking for a fight?
Personally, I always use 2.5cm needles and/or do IM injections into the external femur (thigh), instead of butt.
It was a mistake. The previous post mentioned 5cm needle. I meant to say 10cm, but instead of multiplying by 2, thoughtlessly divided by 2. I apologized for it.

I always thought, that the most important thing, when consulted in such manner, is to tell the patient about all eventualities
That cannot be qualified as ‘mistake’. That is what I think.

30% change in bioavailability makes it a different drug.
different bioavalability does not make a different drug, it’s still the same drug
Unfortunate choice of words. Refrased: Slightly different bioabalability does not matter much; 30% change is a lot, would make it a practically a different drug.

I might have said that I have a Ph.D., or/and an M.D., and /or a D.D.S., etc.,
but never said it** i.e.I never claimed to be an American M.D**.

Jb, If you are perusing all my posts (over 1000), you have a problem. I am glad that you do not want my death anymore; the current problem is lighter. I suggest: it’s Friday night. Find yourself a bisexual girl (or two), get her (them) drunk, ask her (them) to speak like Paul Hogan and forget about me.

I think I made more that two mistakes. For 1000 posts it ain’t bad. Be fair. Go fuck now, you supposed to have two nice drunk girls.

Peace

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A few posts ago you wouldn’t reveal any personal info about yourself because your kids might read this board…

If you want to accuse me of being drunk (whether or not I actually am), then go right ahead. But if you want to keep accusing other people who disagree with your opinions of being drunk or you insist on making unsupportable statements about Australians in general (Paul Hogan - you’re fucking kidding aren’t you? WTF does Paul Hogan have to do with the issue under discussion?), then expect some confrontation on this MB.

I don’t know why you have such a problem with Australians peace (especially seeing that according to you we revere authority just like the Brits do).

What is your fucking problem with jb? jb has been more civil to you than very many other people in this forum (myself included). jb certainly does not deserve the post you just directed at him. He most certainly doesn’t deserve posts telling him who he should fuck and when. Why don’t you go and get yourself a couple of drunken goats and fuck them? (apologises to the goats and the mods).

If you have a problem with me peace, or with Australians in general, then take it up with me/us. But stop putting shit on jb, and Colly and Tom just because they occasionally agree with my viewpoint (if you actually read the fucking threads you would know that they disagree with me many times as well).

You’re right - you didn’t claim to be an American MD, but you have consistently refused to answer the question of whether you have any medical training in any country on this or other planets. Some medical qualifications obtained overseas are not recognised in Australia, or the US or the UK. Precisely why I asked whether you had ever studied medicine in any country (a 10cm needle peace, m’kay, whatever you reckon). Every time I or any other poster on this board has asked you that question, you fudge the answer (credentials aren’t important, science has never proven anything…).

It’s not a hard question to answer peace - have you now or ever been in any country on this planet or others a qualified medical practitioner (and if you ask me to define “practitioner” then I won’t be responsible for the posts which follow this one)? Yes or no? Those are the parameters which you require the rest of us to operate within. Yes or no peace - do you have any kind of medical qualifications whatsoever?

BTW - you’re still a wanker (I know mods…I know)

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Do all of you want peace to drag you on for another two or three pages? I’m sure he can. Give it a rest. It’s obvious from page 1 (and even from previous threads) that he doesn’t want to answer directly. Most probably because he simply isn’t and never has been a doctor or practitioner, or whatever you want to call it. Treat his opinions accordingly.

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And I wouldn’t have a problem with peace if he didn’t keep posting in science and medicine based threads and imply that he is more highly qualified than the actual doctors on this board. The links have already been posted in the other thread - more than once peace has taken it upon himself to dispense medical advice in total opposition to the opinions of the medically qualified people on this board. If he was just posting his bullshit opinions, no-one would have a problem with him. However, he has consistently denigrated the posters on this board who do possess recognised medical qualifications and he has consistently implied that his “unqualified” opinions should be given more validity than the opinions of people who have at least studied medicine…

You might want to do a search on “peace” and read some of the crap he’s posted as “fact” before you advise us all to just ignore him - if only it was that easy…

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REPRISE, Omni answered you. But you are more fun to chat with, so I will answer you as well.** medical training in any country on this or other planets.**
I was trained on another planet. It’s on the inside from here. You call it Venus. So I know Venereal diseases very well.

Those are the parameters which you require the rest of us to operate within.
Ain’t true. I never asked anyone for any fucking credentials (pun intended), including you. Even after you revealed your bisexuality. Since you do not represent any fucking value for me, just a nice Net handle, I do not care. So, you can keep all your fucking credentials to yourself.

About JB: you misread or misinterpreted my post. I made a suggestion, and a friendly one at that. Of course, he may fuck or not. Paul Hogan has nothing to do with this MB. If one wants to talk Australian, she may imitate him.
Yes or no peace - do you have any kind of medical qualifications whatsoever? I forgot.
And I only respectfully argued; never put shit on anyone, even you. Unless you mean intellectual shit. ** But stop putting shit on jb, and Colly and Tom…[/] and they are capable to stand up for themselves.
a 10cm needle peace, m’kay Now, I won’t call you anything, I just ask you a question: have you drun…? you confess.
REPRISE, my patience with ypu is getting thin… Last time: if you do not like my opinion, disregard it (fuck it). Or do not react to it (ignore or fuck it).

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I take it back peace you are an idiot. You state in one post that you have never implied that you are a physician and then when someone brings in a slew of quotes of you doing that you exert the lamest effort in an attempt to shift focus.

jb may not be drunk but I’m sure you wish he was so he may miss your weak diversion. Face it fuckwit, you are caught in your own tar pit. You dug the hole, your poured in the shit and then you denied it was even there and the only person you conviced that it wasn’t there was yourself, and of course because you blinded yourself to it you managed to walk in to it.

You know, if you are going to lie so much you may want to do womething to improve your memory.

for someone who chose the handle of peace you seem little interested in it. Your actions here are blatant attempts to divert, incite, and spread innacurate data in the guise of professional wisdom.

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zen said it better than I could, but I still must. I brought up quotes giving examples (two of MANNNNNNNNY) of you pretending to be a doctor. You said you never did anything even approaching being a doctor. Your response?

I meant to say 10cm, but… divided by 2
What in the living fucking lord jesus christ does that have to do with anything?

of course, when dealing with you, ABSOFUCKINGLUTEY NOETHING! (typos for you).

You ask, Jb, what’s your point? Ho ho, my point is unoriginal. In fact, it’s the title of this thread: Know ignorance, Know Peace. Or no wait, it the title of one of the many Pit threads: “Peace is a worthless piece of shit and a liar to boot”.
'Nuff said.

jb

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Yeah, I put in a profile because you have a penchant for looking at them.

It must be some kind of super-chimp trained behaviour…intelligence gathering or some shit like that.

and I really don’t think I need to confirm my desire to put a word in my profile because they didn’t teach you that word at Super Chimp University.

jb was on the money (and quick with the simpsons reference, I might add - kudos), I was indeed expressing my deep and enduring love for throwing people and other things out of a window.

bibble

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woops, shoulda pointed out that was a quote from peace, as was the subject of the previous post, huh?

Haning head in shame,

Scrimmy

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woops, shoulda pointed out that was a quote from peace, as was the subject of the previous post, huh?

Hanging head in shame,

Scrimmy

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:rolleyes:

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Dude, keep going! You’re breaking down his “I don’t care” barrier. I wanna see what happens when peace stops being polite, and starts being real.

–Tim

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I had. Although I felt I couldn’t determine the accuracy of the info because of my (very) limited medical knowledge. peace’s reply to you just confirms my point.

Given his lack of credentials, peace’s postings on medical matters have the potential of harmful effects on unsuspecting members of our community who might be in search of advice concerning a serious medical condition, regardless of the caveats posted intermittently by the moderators and administrators and other vigilant posters. There is always the possibility that one wrong piece of information (from peace or other self-styled specialists) could slip through the cracks. I know of a few real medical doctors on this board (majormd, for one) who are/were - justly so - very reluctant to provide but the most general info on medical matters and always advised the OP to consult his or her physician. That’s how it should be. Telediagnosis is a good thing as long as you have the proper instruments and the specialized knowledge to go with it. You simply don’t take these questions lightly. And you definitely don’t pose yourself as arbiter supreme, or give such an impression.

In peace’s case, however, this practice seems commonplace. And therein lies the real danger, IMHO. First, for inquiring posters given erroneous information and second for the Straight Dope as an organization (possibility of lawsuits, etc.).

I submit that this problem should be addressed without delay.

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In a way, this board has created peace (in our time?).

I first noticed the guy a couple months ago. I noticed that his syntax and mode of expression was a bit odd, that he he seemed out of step with pop cultural references, and often responded seriously to something intended as banter.

(As opposed to my habit of getting my jocular stuff taken seriously - I don’t like using smilies and am resigned to having most of my drolleries lob over heads and disappear beyond the horizon somewhere)

I also noticed that he spoke a lot about medical things, not always with direct reference to the subject under discussion, he usually seemed to be paraphrasing some rote statement, and I often wondered about its veracity. What I first decided was that peace was:

1 - foreign (WRT the usual run of American / Western European / British Dominion nationalities we seem to have here).
2 - probably a paramedic or a med tech of some sort.
3 - probably young, and full of the importance of his accomplishments.
4 - male.

His statements flatly deny his being young, apparently. They do seem to bear out his gender, so I will unhesitatingly stick with the male pronouns.

Note that I have not seen peace handing out DIRECT medical advice in the threads that our paths crossed in. Just general discussion on pharmacological stuff - I have this bad habit of chiming in on recreational drug threads.

He has gotten very strident only lately. And evolved from making flat serious comments to this wierd act that he’s pulling now. It’s as if he’s trying to indulge in the sort of repartee he sees going on, and can’t manage it because he doesn’t really have the cultural referents. Hence, my original statement.

You know what he reminds me of now? Remember Steve Martin and Dan Akroyd’s “Wild and Crazy Guys” routine? How about it, peace, are you Georg or Yortuk?

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Jb,:What in the living fucking lord jesus christ does that have to do with anything?
You pointed to my error (which was already explained and apologized for at the spot), I explained it to thick you again.

SCRIMMY: Yeah, I put in a profile because you have a penchant for looking at them.
I looked up your profile because you asked me to “define ‘standard’, like a fucking lawyer. I found no ‘lawyer’ but I saw this unusual title, “defenestrator”. Got extremely curious. As far as intelligence gathering, Jb was better, no competition. But my advice: if you want people to know that you like to throw them through the windows, say so in English.
OMNI:Telediagnosis is a good thing as long as you have the proper instruments and the specialized knowledge to go with it.

Telediagnosis is a bad, bad, bad, bad thing. What instruments areyou talking about here? If I were mean, I’d say that a person who seeks a medical advice over the Net is a cheapo, etc. But I understand the concerns and tell them what I know, when appropriate. As far as actually using my advice straight, use your judgement.

And you definitely don’t pose yourself as arbiter supreme, or give such an impression.
I do not pose myself as anything. Maybe, you pose myself, but this is b]your** problem.

First, for inquiring posters given erroneous information and second for the Straight Dope as an organization (possibility of lawsuits, etc.).
See an appropriate thread in MPSISM. Even greedy lawyers do not dream of it.

YABOB:
1 - foreign (WRT the usual run of American / Western European / British Dominion nationalities we seem to have here).
2 - probably a paramedic or a med tech of some sort.
3 - probably young, and full of the importance of his accomplishments.
4 - male.

50:50. Actually, for the Net, ain’t bad.

Congratulations. First clever post I read re:Piece. Actually, many of the things you noticed are my reaction to the strange treatment I have gotten here.
You know what he reminds me of now? Remember Steve Martin and Dan Akroyd’s “Wild and Crazy Guys” routine? How about it, peace, are you Georg or Yortuk?
I know both SM and DA, but not that particular piece. What should I look for (VHS, DVD) and under what name in order to answer your question?

Peace

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I did not point out an error! Or, if I did, I didn’t use the quote to point out an error. I used it (how many times must I repeat this) to give an example of you cultivating the impression that you are a doctor.

I repeat- those two quotes were not being used to point out mistakes you made.

I wasn’t trying to find mistakes! That’s what the other quotes in the post were for.

I repeat one more time-

Are you now or have you ever been a doctor? In the U.S.?

Again, I don’t want proof. I (and many posters) simply want a non-evasive yes or no answer.

Again, here are your two choices- yes or no.

A maybe, an “I forget”, or any other utter tripe, will be taken as a no. I repeat, you now know in advance that we will interpret (seeing as how you are up in arms about how you are interpreted and/or misconstrued) any answer other than an affirmative or a negative,

as a NO.

Are you a doctor?

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and by the way, a lack of an answer will also be interpreted as a “NO”.

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jb, I tried this approach with peace somewhere around page 1. He was incapable of giving a direct answer. Stop torturing yourself, dude ain’t gonna admit a damn thing one way or the other.

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Ummm, defenestrate/defenestration is quite an acceptable word in English (dating to the 17th century) and the back-formation defenestrator should be easy enough for anyone to figure out.

Telediagnosis is an excellent tool when used *in the manner alluded to by omni-not. It is not a method of looking things up on the net, but a video-communication tool in which a camera, tlephone, and several diagnostic tools are connected by phone or net to a full-service, doctor-staffed medical facility and operated by a nurse or physician’s assistant at the location of the camera and diagnostic tools. It has been used for several years (originally in Wyoming, I believe), to provide the services of genuine physicians to widely scattered people who cannot possibly make 300+ mile drives for every ailment above the level of the common cold.
(If you have any actual medical knowledge, you seem to be seriously ill-informed regarding how medicine is practiced these days.)

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Peace: Telediagnosis is a bad, bad, bad, bad thing.

Then why have you been attempting to do just that at the MB? That’s what got you in trouble with most posters here, peace. For example, My Fiancee’s Naughty Bits or words to that effect.

You diagnosed (quite badly, I might add), and did it from a distance. How is that not telediagnosis?

Answer the question peace- we don’t want proof; just a yes or no answer. If you are not a doctor, simply say so. No harm, no foul. If you are, just say it. Either way, answer the question.

You can’t avoid answering this forever- answer the question or we will answer it for you. As I said, evasive posturing or lack of an answer will be recognized by us posters as a big fat “NO”. Time is running out.
jb