I think that answers your question rather conclusively, doesn’t it?
And that, in my opinion, is the icing on the cake.
what cake are you talking about here?
originally posted by SCRIMMY
Thanks a lot. But no time for such pleasantries- we’ve got a FUCKNUT/WIT to deal with!
jb
This has turned into some sort of crusade for you and others, but especially for you. As my friend Paul once said: Let It Be.
With answers such as
(not to mention the saga of the fully-grown children who could catch daddy red-handed giving advice on the Net, which explains why he abstains from giving any details about himself?!?!)
do you realistically expect much from all of this in the end?
jb:
HE’S PLAYING YOU!!
Hypothetical scenario:
peace says: “Yes, I am a doctor/medical practitioner/whatever”.
Then what?
I’ve been involved with this telemedicine effort. It works well for the reasons Tom cites. It is hardly “a bad thing”.
Nuthin’.
This whole busines is exhilirating. **Tomndebb/b] had warned me before not to take all this so seriously, and I hadn’t the heart to tell him I wasn’t taking this seriously at all.
This is better than tv, and funner than most NPR.
It’s like David Foster Wallace said in Infinite Jest. Tennis isn’t about you versus the other player. It’s about you versus you, and the other player is there to let you play.
I’m here for peace. He can take my hand if he wants to become a respectable member, and I’ll help him out. If not, I’m the shovel he’s digging his own grave with.
Either way, I’m posting regularly again (not just in peace threads either), and I’m having a blast.
huzzah!!!
jb
geez, that last post sound really solipsistic and delusions-of-grandeur-istic. I mean I’m staying in for the long haul, and I can either help the dude or borscht him to dust. Which way? It’s up to peace.
jb
::looks sadly at jb::
passes him a large beetroot.
passes him a blender and some sour cream.
Good luck.
I think the only way to sort peace out would be to insert a beetroot into his anus. A large beetroot.
And peace, yeah, of course that was a threat. A threat of rape by root vegetable.
Gb:(how many times must I repeat this) to give an example of you cultivating the impression that you are a doctor.
How many times…I repeat this: I do not ‘give’ an impression that I am a doctor; I speak here on medical topics; I speak on a lot of other topics, from Eve’s bellybutton to assfucking. The talking is mine. The impression is yours.
Are you a doctor?
You know what? You got me. Here I am, a little insecure Peace, trying his best to be perfect. Despite all my efforts, I sometimes goof. The entire SDMB crowd dance with joy when I do. And yells: “You, creep! You use 2.5cm needle for IM injections and have the temerity to say that you are A DOCTOR! Fuck you! Your asshole is a doctor!”
Before I could have always said: “I NEVER claimed to be a doctor”. A lay person, apparently, is allowed to goof. But not a doctor. Never. Not on these sacred Boards, at least.
Got it, Jb? Is it a good enough reason to say neither yes nor no? Will anyone stand up to the same scrutiny and always present his “credentials”?
and by the way, a lack of an answer will also be interpreted as a "NO"
Continue, I am listening. Does that mean that the promised raise is not coming next year?
Tom, did I overestimate you? It’s not the first time you lecture me on the things I am well aware of, and you should have guessed. Including telediagnosis, remote surgery, etc. I was talking of the term as it was used here. XyZ asks: ‘I got this terrible zits on the butt. Should I fuck tonight?” Anyone who knows (or thinks that he knows) the answer, responses. Some say: “I ain’t a doctor”. Some do not say, but they misspell ‘zits’. Some sign ‘M.D.’ I have no idea what the zitter (or is a zits sufferer should be called a zittee?) will do with the posts/”advice”.
Do you want me to place the above paragraph in my sig”?
Jb:You diagnosed (quite badly, I might add), and did it from a distance.
First , Jb, you said that you will return to your old ‘fuck Peace’ stuff; I said fuck off. For whatever reason you came to this afternoon:
You diagnosed (quite badly, I might add), and did it from a distance.
This is a reproach, but it is logical and legitimate. The answer: I did not diagnose it. Astroboy asked a question (on his own, I did not force him to). I answered him (not with a diagnosis): 1. Have her see a gynecologist; 2. I had doubts about that diagnosis, because a normal uterus cannot be palpated on external exam. Astroboy confirmed: as far as he knew, no pelvic bimanual exam was done by that GP on his shy GF and NOBODY of resident MB ‘doctors’ disagreed, i.e., NOBODY said: ‘Do not see a gynecologist or that the uterus COULD BE palpated.
As to the ending of your post: the threats notwithstanding, you all disregard, refute or deny my every word, whether it is factual or a “thought”. Now you are saying: **we don’t want proof; just a yes or no answer[/]
What happened?
Peace
This ur-tweaker thinks that Ronnie Reagan was a saint. Hello! Way out there…
The answer: I did not diagnose it. Astroboy asked a question (on his own, I did not force him to). I answered him (not with a diagnosis)
not with a diagnosis? What in hell do you call this:
**He could feel that the uterus was “sideways” in one case only: if the uterus is very enlarged and distorted. In which case it must be a large fibromyoma (leiomyoma). **
**As to the ending of your post: the threats notwithstanding, you all disregard, refute or deny my every word, whether it is factual or a “thought”. Now you are saying: we don’t want proof; just a yes or no answer
What happened? **
What happened? WTF are you talking about? You are now complaining that we aren’t asking you to prove your statements? What the hell is wrong with you? By your own admission, WE CAN’T PROVE WHETHER YOU ARE A DOCTOR. So if we (and you) say you can’t prove it,
WHY IN BLEEDIN HELL IS IT A PROBLEM THAT I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO PROVE IT?!?!?
Remember, peace, no answer is a “no” answer.
jb
Here we go round the mulberry bush, yet again.
Nobody is saying that, man. Here’s what we are saying. “Personally, I always use 2.5cm needles and/or do IM injections into the external femur (thigh), instead of butt.” This statement implies (1) you do injections on a (semi)-regular basis, and (2) you are a doctor. Nobody is saying “Tee hee hee, he said a wrong needle. He can’t be a doctor”. We are saying statements such as these (which you have made on a regular basis) make it sound as if you are a doctor.
Again, wrong. The impression is not just mine. Many many people on this board got the same impression. So I’d say the problem is on your end, bub.
You did say that, pretty much. But you never said IF you were a doctor. You gave vague throwaway pieces of verbal garbage, like “I am not a doctor in your state”. What is it? Yes or no?
They would if they had any to present.
I know I should be used to this by now, but what the fuck??
Yeah right, dude. You wish.
Um, I should be used to unfounded and stupidheaded claims like this, too. Please tell me where I said anything even approaching this.
In short peace, you HAVE cultivated an air of MDness. If it were merely a misunderstanding, a misinterpretaion of your words, you wouldn’t have so many Pit Threads about you. The fact that so many people are “misinterpreting” your words should tell you something. Of course, it very well might be, but judging from your (apparent) mental state, it’s probably “It is I, your Lord Satan. Kill and eat a housecat.”
The only reason you could possibly have for refusing to answer the doctor question is that YOU ARE NOT NOW AND NEVER HAVE BEEN a doctor. Why else would you be so shifty and evasive?
Oh, that’s right. If you said you were a doctor, your kids would automatically put two and two together and realize “Holy shit! Dad’s really gone down the tubes. I thought ma was gonna make him take his pills?”
jb
p.s.- “No answer is a ‘no’ answer”- damn, that’s catchy.
No. You were not.
peace, you and jb_f can dance all night and into next week and I’m only a mildly amused spectator. This MB is intended to fight ignorance. You either deliberately or ignorantly misinterpreted omni-not’s statement on telediagnosis and left a statement hanging that needed correction for the benefit of any less informed readers.
I do not care whether your misinterpretation was based in ignorance or done deliberately to dance with jb_f and company, but your statement on the subject was in error. (There is no way that omni-not using the term telediagnosis can be equated to a person who “seeks a medical advice over the Net” yet that is the misstatement with which you responded.)
I’m not interested in the game of verbal poison-ball that you guys are playing. I will, however, point out factual errors.
OMNI-NOT:peace says: “Yes, I am a doctor/medical practitioner/whatever”.
Then what?
Exactly.
Tom, fightig ignorance does not mean agreeing with you. Fighting ignorance does not mean promoting something (although the latter is up to the mods, I do not care). You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. For instance: you may like telediagnosis. I may not like it. Dr. Karl likes it. On this one our opinions differ. On other things they may be similar. Once again: fighting ignorance does not preclude difference of opinions. I am sure that you know that. Try to remember.
Once again: I do not think that telediagnosis is a good idea (unless there are no live doctors around), even if done by real, legitimate doctors. It is an awful idea in an anonymous setting, like this. That is why, whenever I suggest anything which even might resemble a medical advice, I accompany it by a disclaimer (a part of my signature now).
Well, this seems rather pointless, I guess, but it should be noted that peace again misrepresented the point of the discussion.
It is possible to have differing opinions regarding whether telediagnosis is a “good thing,” but peace went back to equating it to getting advice off the net which it clearly is not. His point
ignores the fact that it is only used where ther are no live doctors around (Wyoming, Alaska, etc.) and his claim that
is utterly irrelevant since it is only done by trained professionals (Nurses, Physician assistants) who are physically and personally examining the patient and using the equipment to communicate with a distant doctor.
If he truly does not understand what telediagnosis is, then his earlier comment about my lecturing him on things he already knows is hilarious.
If he truly does know what telediagnosis is, then his repeated equation of telediagnosis to getting anonymous advice off the net was simply a lie.
Ah, well.
peace banned? Just as I was about to say that I didn’t want to play anymore and ask my friend Tom to come at my place to watch TV, trade hockey cards, play real games, or somethin’.
Wonder what prompted this.
WTF???
Peace has been banned? Why?
His plug seems to have gotten pulled here:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=53081
With some justification. A pity, in a way. I was still finding the show moderately entertaining.
I think it was the MPSIMS thread Greedy lawyers, shame on you