Yep, it tells you that you don’t know that my computer won’t be stolen… Congratulations on reading for comprehension.
No. If you give your credit card or car to an acquaintance who you can’t be sure you trust, and they steal it, then you’re a moron. That’s the parallel to this thread.
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I would say telling remark again but, let’s be honest, who didn’t already know?
Yes! And, considering that “boudoir photography” has been taking place since the the beginning of photography, you’d think if this were commonplace, the risk levels in sharing nude photos would be very apparent.
Nice example! Yes, this is one of the other issues I’d like to see astro address since he is the OP. I guess, magically, women are supposed to know which men are trustworthy and which are not. How does astro feel women should best judge this for themselves? Should a woman be with a man for 3 months? 10 years? 20 years? Before she can fully trust someone with her inner self?
I’d also like to know if astro feels he could be trusted with such photos? And if so, why? And which signs does he think women should look for before she can fully trust her partner?
Only an idiot woman would fail to wear a burqa at all times, otherwise she might tempt some perv into perving her! This is EXACTLY what the OP is saying, in essence, just applied to real life instead of the Internet. I’m surprised so many Dopers failed to see through it. I guess a little moral superiority over “those idiots” is a tempting thing indeed.
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I stated (correctly) that men only care about who a woman is sleeping with if it’s their partner, and that it’s women who do most slut-shaming.
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Do you have a cite for that because, from what I understand of these slutshaming sites, it’s mostly men who are providing the photos.
Where are you seeing an instance of this in this thread? Please show me because I must’ve read past it somehow.
Yes it is, indeed, and it’s a shame he either can’t see it or is ignoring it. I can’t tell which.
Please, say what you mean, if you want to accuse me of something.
What I’m saying is that many people are not perfectly trustworthy, and the best way to ensure they don’t harm you is not to give them the opportunity. This is, of course, a balancing act, but from the evidence - the sheer amount of this stuff that gets posted on the internet - I don’t think I’d be inclined to say that many people would be trustworthy with it after a relationship ends. Irrationality causes people to make terrible decisions, and the ease of doing it coupled with the perceived lack of punishment means there is little to stop someone doing it, apart from not being a cunt.
If you want to take that to mean that I’ve done it myself, you’d be wrong, but I’ve no way of proving that. If it pleases you to think I’m an evil pervert of some sort, knock yourself out.
And this is where you’re just being silly. She was talking about jogging with her pepper spray and you’re saying that by having it out on her person (not waving it at every man she passed, just having it visible) she is threatening any passing man. That is ridiculous and I picture you clutching your pearls “Well I never! That woman ran by me with pepper spray. That pepper spray passed right by my person!”
Perhaps where you live it’s illegal to carry it where people can see it. That’s not true everywhere. I have participated in police lead self defense/self awareness programs where the police officers specifically tell you that you should have it in your hand when walking to your car, jogging, etc. They specifically tell you (in printed literature and verbally in the class) that when you need it you need it immediately and you don’t want to rummage for it in your purse so carry it where it can be seen so the potential predator sees that you aren’t the easiest mark.
The literature we used in these programs were ordered from one place and it was the same no matter what state in the US it was being sent to. I’m 100% sure that if she contacted her police department where she lives here in the USA and asked if she could run with her pepper spray on her person (strapped to her arm, dangling from her wrist) she would be told y-e-s.
You should stop leaving your phones places where you won’t remember where they are.
By this logic, I think it’s smarter to share dirty photos with a one night stand than your husband. A one night stand may not know your personal info, and will have little motivation to launch a coherent harassment campaign. But a husband could, if the marriage broke up, do a lot of damage.
Ladies, beware.
Even if, like me, you don’t care if people see you naked, and get paid by artists to sketch you naked (and there are plenty of existing photos taken of you while posing) - it would still be deeply wrong for someone to post those pics with identifying info on the internet in an attempt at defamation and/or harassment. I’d pursue legal action as well.
And despite me saying repeatedly that that has nothing to do with what I was saying, you keep repeating it. Troppus and others said in that thread that they had the right to threaten a man with pepper spray if they thought he might become a threat. They don’t, anywhere.
What’s especially fun is that if you look at past threads here about dating and that old “3 date rule” about having sex you’ll see how many people are shocked that people aren’t ready to bone after just a few dates.
If a date lasts 2 hours and you’ve had three that means that in 6 hours time you should know if the person you’re about to bang is a trustworthy individual who will not harm you physically now or screw you over in the future when things have gone south. Please be sure to be open to all of those people too and only assume they are bad when they’ve given you reason to think badly of them. Looking at anyone as a potential ANYTHING that’s bad will hurt their feelings and that’s more important than protecting yourself from anything.
Absolutely not, where are you getting this from?
Allowing nude pics to be taken incurs risk, this is factual.
Allowing nude pics to be taken incurs risk, this is factual.
You dodged a bullet.
The people that are offended by finding leaked pics/video online all (criminal events aside) have one thing in common, they allowed the pic/video to be taken. Surprisingly, the people that refused pics and vids, found no instances of graphic images of them online.
There may be some rights to privacy afforded in certain circumstances, but if you knew the pic was taken, and it ended up online, that’s on you. Someone else posted it? You knew it was out there.
Responsibility. It includes being aware of what one should and shouldn’t take pictures of with no possible chance of negative repercussions.
Except that you said that there is no reason to have it in your hand at all unless you intend to use it and that anyone who simply sees it can assume it’s a threat. Keep clutching those pearls and telling us that we’re wrong about the words you use. Bonus points for you telling us how the “law works” as if the law is the same in every single place in the world.
Yes, exactly. Don’t have a weapon in your hand unless you intend to use it.
Between police officers instructions and Steophan of the internet I think I’ll go with the advice of the police officers despite your super cool knowledge of how the “law works” every single place in the world. Still, you be careful out there as those women run by with the scary, scary pepper spray hanging from their wrist. The world’s a dangerous place for you with those threats whizzing by.
The actual percentage of private pics made fully public is obviously very low relative to the number of digital erotic pics in circulation on computers, and cell phones and camera chips. However, the reality is that lot of those pics are more widely distributed than many people may think as digital data is easily copied and sometimes overlooked. I occasionally buy older, inexpensive digital cameras from thrifts for taking ebay pics, and the more than once people (women in each case) have left their erotic pics on the memory chips. I delete these pics, but another person might not. At least 2 times a year or more I pick up and turn in cellphones that people have left on counter tops and shelves in retail stores or restaurants.
Several years ago I was asked by a friend if there was a way to retrieve some pics of a HS football game her daughter had deleted. I did some googling and downloaded the recommended retrieval software and it *undeleted *over a hundred shots which included much more than just the daughters football pics.
The point is the terminal risk that your shots will be on a porn site are very low assuming everyone is acting decently, but they are not infinitesimal, and everyone doesn’t act decently, and there’s more of your private porn running around than you might think. So take precautions. If you don’t you may get stung.
Is the fact that you are not morally or ethically culpable in any way going to make it all better when a bunch of revenge board trolls are contacting your Facebook friends with shots of you in private action? Sure, it’s terrible, it’s wrong and they are a pack of shits, but is that going to make it any less embarrassing when you lose that job opportunity or become the talk of the lunchroom?
If you really think the risks involved with briefly trusting someone with your purse contents vs giving them full access and effective permanent control of your erotic pics even (potentially) after they have broken up with you is somehow the same risk-wise … I don’t know what to tell you. I think you are miscalculating the nature of the risks. Ethically and morally both are gross breaches or trust, but one is likely to have a lot higher impact than the other if the thief uses the pictures.
There seems this to be this huge push to focus on how wrong and immoral it is if this violation of trust happens. All that is granted. There’s no argument there, but the second part of this where there is this insistence that there must not be any suggestion or intimation that the person posting their erotic pics in happy innocence should or could have done anything differently to prevent this from occurring is baffling bordering on asinine.
Apparently the advice - “Hey don’t post naked pics of yourself as there is a risk they could be misused, and that could be bad for you” - is
1: slut shaming
2: victim blaming
3: condescending
4: lame
5: not statistically all that high risk, and thus not something women really need to concern themselves with
6: assumes all men are sociopathic predators
7: does not acknowledge the extent to which erotic picture sharing is a vital and necessary part of modern relationships
OK fine… share away. But not a peep out of you if they pop up in undesired places.
But here’s the thing, you specifically made a point to address your advice to women. Not everyone, just women. Women only despite the fact that there have been many famous men this has happened to as well. Can you at all see how your choice to do this smacks as a bit jerkish and possibly a bit of slut shaming?
I’m not asking for your head on a platter, but can you see how it’s a little strange that you choose to only lay down this advice to women?
You seem to have confused “hanging from the wrist” with “in your hand” again. Perhaps the nice police officer can explain the difference to you next time you call him to settle your internet arguments.