Ladies, sometimes we guys buy pick-ups/ sports cars because well...

I’m curious about what my car says about me. (Rather, what it would say about me if I had the car I want.)

My first car was a '66 MGB roadster. My second and third cars were '77 MGB roadsters. My fourth was a '77½ Porsche 924. My seventh was a '79 Porsche 911SC. I have a '66 MGB in restoration, and we’re going down to get a '63 Triumph today. In addition, I’ve ridden motorcycles (actually, I started on minibikes; but they’re virtually the same in that they are motorised two-wheelers) since I was five years old.

In short, I’ve nearly always had ‘fun’ vehicles. I like the speed. I like the maneuverability. I like driving something just a little bit different from most people. I like sports cars because I like sports cars. I’m very much into function. I have never used a car as ‘bait’, nor would I be attracted to the kind of woman who would like me because of what kind of car I drive. That is, the car is for me. If someone likes it, then fine. If she doesn’t, then that’s fine as well; I’m having fun with it.

So let’s say I could afford another 911-series, and I get one. (Preference: 911-996 coupé, dark metallic blue, grey interior; or a 911SC or Carerra coupé in white with no tail – like my old one – or another ‘rally-like’ colour.) Given that I’d have that car because of what it is and my long-time propensity for fun vehicles, what impression would it give to others? Also, does it really matter what people think as long as I enjoy it?

That’s very interesting, Johnny. My armchair psychoanalysis based on what you choose to drive would be that impressing the ladies is indeed not a big priority for you; I would say you are fun, impractical, slightly irresponsible, very self-motivated, and a non-conformer. I would also say that you’re not interested in having a family or settling down. As a woman, if I wanted to settle down and have babies, a guy driving fun, fast, two-seaters doesn’t lend itself to me imagining car seats in it, you know what I mean?

Does it matter what people think? No, unless they think you’re coming from somewhere you don’t want people to think you’re coming from (see the family/settling down above). If you really want a family, you might be giving off the wrong vibe to potential mates.

Now that I think about it, there could be a whole 'nother thread in this. “Let me psychoanalyze you based on what you drive!”

Go for it featherlou. :smiley:

My first armchair ‘psychoanalysis’ -----

With all those MG’s I’m gonna guess that JohnnyLA is pretty good with a wrench. :wink:


Lets see. My cars.

’62 Olds 98. (I could fit my Schwin 10 speed in the trunk. And once took my Yamaha DT250B to Illinoise in the trunk [had to take off the wheels and handlebars])

’76 Chevy Shortbed 4x4. Still have it. It’s my plow truck now. Good truck.

‘79(?) VW Scirroco. Swapped a couple of engines in that.

’89 Nissan 240SX. Fun car. To small for me and my dog. And absolute shit in snow (even with 4 studded snow tires on it) Twice I towed it back to my house with my truck. By myself.

I’ll never forget the day that I deceided to get rid of it. I liked that car. But It just could not do what I needed.

Sooo….Next up… ’84 Jeep CJ7. Soft top. Not the best choice for me, but I could afford it, and needed something. It got me to work and back no prob, but was also too small. My dog hated it, to noisy and flappy with that soft top. It was fun sometimes, but as a daily driver it sorta sucked. I wish I could have kept it, It was good off-road, and fun to tool around with out the top on.

Current car – ’93 4 door Nissan Pathfinder. Been driving it for about 11 years now. Pretty close to perfect for me. It’s done well. Not enough power though. Makes trying to pass dangerous, and towing a trailer questionable.

My Wife’s cars

3 Cylinder Chevy Sprint. Pretty damn good little car. It surprised me it did. Very easy to tow out when it got stuck. My tool box weighed more.

’91 Suziki Side Kick. 4 door. Did well in the snow. And if you don’t mind riding around in a snare-drum, I would say that It was a good car. To small though. And not enough power.

’03 Grand Jeep Cherokee. Pretty much as perfect as we could ask for. It should come standard with better tow hooks. It could be a tad bigger, but I’m not gonna complain. It does everything else we need with ease.

I’ll probably buy an Grand Jeep ’06 to replace my Pathfinder.

My armchair psychoanalysis of you, enipla, is that you are very practical, and also a bit of a non-conformist. You also have something of a yearning heart, always searching for some deeper meaning to life.

Sorry to come in so late, but I have to disagree with I don’t care about your cat on some issues.

First, If you make a statement that MOST of a certain group are “something”, you have to EXPECT that the members of that group that aren’t “something” are going to come out and say, “Hey, I am not!” Your statement is clearly meant to impart the characteristic of “something” onto the majority of that group. You have made an oversimplified or biased statement to characterize the typical individual of a group. In other words, you are stereotyping the group of people who drive large vehicles.

This is so clearly stereotyping it is not even funny. If this was said about a person’s color, or clothing, you would get jumped on. But because it’s a vehicle choice, it’s o.k.? Honestly, when you see a girl wearing a short skirt, you just KNOW she is a whore. Yeah, logical thinking at it’s best… :rolleyes:

Secondly, it is a weak and LAME stance in a debate to bag out and say, “Hey, it’s just my opinion.” Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but your opinion doesn’t mean poop in a debate unless you can give specific factual support for it. Stop calling people names and then saying, “it’s just my opinion.”

Third, yes dodge trucks are currently designed in a very “aggressive” design. So what. Many newer car designs are what many would call more “aggressive.” The new sports cars are “aggressive” especially if you compare them to the older models. This is related to the increase in sharp lines and angles. The width of the vehicle as related to the height and length. Heck, this is true of the not so sport cars too. Look at the new line of Cadillacs for some examples of aggressive styling cues. Heck, even the more “stylish” station wagons have a more aggressive styling. What you have done is pick characteristic of most newly designed vehicles but only cite it’s usage for the trucks. This is akin to calling a minority overly sexual, or miserly, when the same characteristic applies to those that are not of the group. In other words, it’s a pathetic stereotype that looks true, because it is true, but means nothing cause it’s true for about every other group. Even the Toyota Corolla has become more aggressive in styling column of pictures on the right of the page . Notice the more slanted hood line and lower, larger headlights. Clearly the Toyota people are out to intimidate the other car drivers on the road. :dubious:

Fourth, you are guilty of selective perception. You believe that truck owners are more aggressive, so you look for aggressive truck drivers, and then you find them. You believe that you have proven your point, and the belief is further entrenched in your perception of the world. The reality is that there are aggressive drivers in ever classification of vehicle. The compact sport group has aggressive drivers. The American muscle cars drivers can be aggressive. Motorcycle riders can be aggressive. Luxury car owners can be aggressive. The hybrid drivers can be aggressive. You may perceive the truck drivers as more aggressive because they are larger and apparently intimidate you. I have many experiences with truck drivers letting me in the lane or conceding the right of way. Likewise, I have many experiences with sport car owners, luxury car owners, and frazzled moms in station wagons refusing to allow me to merge and making quick lane changes in front of me without using their signals.

Fifth, you claim

but in your earlier post (I believe your first post) the only vehicles you mentioned were an SUV and a truck.

You seem almost clinical in your irrational fears of the big vehicles.
“going to devour you,” seriously, hyperbolize much. :slight_smile:
Bottom line, people purchase the vehicles they do for many different reasons. I have NEVER heard ANYONE, EVER, state that their vehicle choice was to be as aggressive as possible. “Ima gonna buy me that truck so I can push little car drivers around on the road.” This is just ridiculous. My wife drives an SUV, a Mazda Tribute. It gets pretty good mileage, has 4-wheel drive, seats the two of us, a third passenger, and the two car seats fairly easily, it is easier to get the kids into and out of the seats because it sits a little higher, and hold tons of stuff in the back. Sure, a station wagon could do this. A minivan can too. But to get four-wheel drive on those two vehicles is going to cost more. I’m a high school English teacher, and I drive a full size pickup. I live in suburbia. Ridiculous you say? Why would I need such a vehicle? Not to make you pee your pants on the road, I assure you. I also run the theatre program at the HS and need to buy the building materials for the plays. But even beyond that, I have used it at home several times to haul building materials for home improvements. Maybe you’re the type of person that doesn’t do your own building, but for those of us that do, the convenience of the full size truck is without comparison.

The problem with generalizations like yours, “Aggressive people drive aggressive cars,” is you have to constantly say, “yeah, well, except for you. I meant all the others…” Your beef should be with aggressive drivers, not big vehicles. And quit the overgeneralizations based on your own absurd personal fears.
“like some sort of monster that’s going to devour you.”
:slight_smile: :smiley: :slight_smile: Thanks for the laugh.

As far as the intimidation thing goes, Dodge had a commercial out about six months to a year ago where the jingle went “Intimidate without saying a word”. So yeah, in spite of what you may think, Dodge themselves admitted it with their own commercial.

As for me, I think that anyone who’s intimidated by a puckup truck is kinda off their rocker. It’s a personal vehicle, and nobody in their right mind wants to tear their vehicle up over a few minutes. The only thing your squeamishness does it make you scared and a danger to yourself.

If I recall correctly, circa 1990, the design concept behind the Dodge grille, as expressed on the Ram pickup first, was to make it look like a modern semi. It was very different styling at the time, very extreme.

Gonna stop you right there. You already fucked up, because I never said “most”. As for the rest of your diatribe, it’s not even worth responding to. You sound like you’ve really got a chip on your shoulder. Airman and E-Sabbath already showed that you’re wrong; not much more to say. :stuck_out_tongue:

Seek therapy.

I think you misunderstood. I don’t drive squeamishly. However, that doesn’t mean I’m not cognizant of the danger posed by SUVs on the road. To give you an analogy, I avoid passing a semis on the right, because it’s not smart - I am aware of the danger inherent in doing so. That doesn’t mean I’m squeamish around semis. Being cognizant of something doesn’t mean you’re skittish.

You are just being rude now. I read through ALL of your posts before responding. I responded in a very clear and logical manner to some of the fallacies in your particular polemic stance. You have completely dismissed and apparently haven’t even bothered to read these, because I used a hypothetical, metaphorical example with the word most in it?

Airman and E-Sabbath said nothing that counters any of my statements above. I readily conceded that the new dodge pickups are more aggressively designed than those in the past, as are the newer Toyota Corollas, so what, what is your point. If you bothered to READ my post, that point was made clear.

If you want to get nitpicky, YES, actually, you did say “most”, post #96

But that is not the point, now is it.:slight_smile:

Way to avoid the actual argument by deflecting to a semantic disagreement. For clarification, I didn’t “quote” you when I said most. You have said “many”, and this does not change my statement. If you make a statement that MANY of a certain group are “something”, you have to EXPECT that the members of that group that aren’t “something” are going to come out and say, “Hey, I am not!” Your statement is clearly meant to impart the characteristic of “something” onto the majority of that group. You have made an oversimplified or biased statement to characterize the typical individual of a group. In other words, you are stereotyping the group of people who drive large vehicles.

This is a chronological listing of your continued attempt to stereotype.
post #52

post #64

post #77

post #92

You are implying through your tone, choice of words, and direct language that those who drive larger vehicles are more aggressive. In your own words, “ALOT” and “many” of them are. So by your logic, if one drives a pick-up, they *probably are * an aggressive driver, just by their choice of a truck or SUV. That is, in effect the whole basis of your point of view. If you perceived the number of these aggressive large vehicle drivers to be small, you wouldn’t be griping about them. You are wrong on this count, but this is only ONE of the points I made earlier.

I will choose to not “Seek therapy,” thank you anyway. However, if you continue to fear that the big bad evil trucks are going to eat you, maybe you should.

I should also point out that Patrick Bedard, a very well known columnist for Car And Driver is simply mad about the Prius. Wacky, even.

At least, I’m pretty sure it’s Bedard. Column before Brock? He has listed it as one of the top ten cars he wants to own. As well as a Boss Stang. There are many reasons to buy many vehicles. Dominance certainly is one of many factors… but I could muscle people with my old Mercury Topaz. It wasn’t hard.

However, I don’t know if a 15+ year old design decision counts as recently. I don’t think recent Dodges have gotten more aggressive. In fact, I think they’ve gotten less.
I think styling changes over time. Dodge has attempted to implement a family look along all their vehicles, and their grille is a identifying marker that sells, like the BMW Kidney.

I might be going way out on a limb here, but I think that what your car says about you is that you like driving an MG.

Where I live a lot of people have camps up rough dirt roads, and where a lot of people tow boats to any of the many hundreds of nearby lakes. Driving pickup trucks or SUVs around here has little to do with aggression or penises or the like, and instead has much to do with basic transportation.

Once one is into pickup or SUV territory, then why not have body styling that suggests something rugged? No harm there if the exterior is representitive of the motor and drive train.

I don’t doubt that there are some people who chose a vehicle for reasons more related to ego than to practicality, but I expect that most folks fall on the practicality side. That’s why I would hesitate before assuming specific personality traits based only on a persons ride.

To put it another way, I wouldn’t be surprised if an aggressive or over-compensating person would chose a burly pickup truck over a smart car, but I would not assume that a person driving a pickup truck must be aggresive or over-compensating,any more than I would assume that a person driving a smart car is a wus.

But wouldn’t a 1959 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud do just as well? (And cheaper, too. One can be had in the $50,000 to $75,000 dollar range, if you look hard.) It weighs a ton, has an exremely powerful engine, and a hood from here to Seattle.

You are truly a nit-picking idiot, for even you, as dim witted as you are, can not be so ignorant as to serious assume that an old car has the reliability, availablity of parts, cargo capacity and ground clearance that is necessary to haul boats and gear on logging roads.

Go back to your hole and get back on your meds, Liberal.

Interesting. That’s how I see myself, except for the ‘self-motivated’ part. I tend to suffer from inertia.

Actually, I’m an incurable romantic. I would like to have a family.

Maybe that’s what I’ve been doing wrong all these years?

Nope! I understand the theory about how a four-cycle engine works, but haven’t a clue how to fix them. :o

As opposed to you? :dubious:

Surely you must realize that I didn’t mean that literally. :rolleyes:

I used the word “most” only to deny having said it. You took that word out of context, which is beneath contempt. You are obviously trolling, and I don’t respond to trolls. Good bye.

Did you catch that article I linked to previously? It’s not dated, but it’s about a 2004 model truck, so I’d assume it’s around that time. A representative of Dodge is talking about “bold, aggressive, in-your-face” styling. That’s in 2004. So, no - I wouldn’t dismiss it as something that happened way back in the olden days. Besides which, I would say that the trend of pickup trucks and SUVs as “performance” vehicles, or surrogate sports cars, as opposed to utilitarian vehicles, has been with us at least since the 90s, so whether you define that as “recent” or not isn’t really the point. “Recent” is a relative term.

Hmmm…what are you basing that on?

I think that’s belied by the quote I referenced above. They certainly sell other products that might be marketed to families, but in the category we’re talking about - high-performance trucks and SUVs, I don’t see any indication that they’ve recently gone more for a “family look”.