It would appear that the chemical compound used on the incense was trioxin.
Laws may have have been changed in this area since the thread was started.
Closing thread provisionally, at least, pending review.
Reopening thread. It’s legal in some states, usually with a prohibition with respect to minors. Other states do ban it outright, but The Reader’s home state of Illinois does not ban all forms of the plant.
Carry on as you wish.
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Nitpick: Although these herbal blends obviously contain some plant material, the active ingredient that is banned in some states is not plant-based.
Wait…what? How did salvia come up? I’m so confused, man…Who’s got the Funyons?
Because it’s legal (for now), yes, I have tried several bends and have had varying experiences with them. They all, best I can tell, contain synthetic cannaboids or other psychotropic chemicals sprayed or otherwise mixed with white hyssop, mullein or other unidentifiable herbs. There are no psychotropic effects to white hyssop or mullein alone, they’re just there as a vehicle to burn to release the chemicals. ETA: But they’re undoubtedly different synthetic cannaboids than they were when the OP was written. There are hundreds of them, and the states are mostly banning a few at a time, by chemical name. So the manufacturers stop using the banned one and use another. Rinse and repeat.
Some of them make me a little lightheaded for 20 minutes and that’s it. Others (naming names: Wacked) are like pretty high grade marijuana in their mental effects - lightly disassociating, giggles, flight of ideas, euphoria, etc.
With the exception of cotton mouth worse than any mary jane, most of them don’t seem to have the same physical effects as marijuana - they don’t work to relive pain or inflammation or ease nausea or menstrual cramps. This makes sense if you read the science on synthetic cannaboids (something about two different cannaboid receptors in the brain, one of which is mostly responsible for the psychotropic effects, and that’s the one these synthetics stimulate, and another receptor mostly responsible for the physical effects, and these synthetics don’t attach to that one well.)
I’ve never felt nausea or vomited, experienced a fast heart rate or other signs of cholinergic crisis, although I understand that those are risks.
Like all mind altering substances, I would suggest that people under 22 stay far away (there’s a significant risk that, like marijuana, these could precipitate the development of schizophrenia in people genetically at risk for it, plus we just don’t know how being altered before your brain is fully developed will affect things) and that, of course, you not drive or operate machinery while under the influence of anything, legal or not.
It does have health risks. We don’t know what all of those are yet. I wish these things weren’t on the market, since there’s a pretty damn safe but illegal plant which has the effects people are looking for with known and limited health risks. But since the War on Drugs and random drug testing has taken the safest option off the table, and people are not going to stop wanting to get high while the homo sapiens sapiens species is in existence, I’ll just say: don’t be stupid about it, and if you poison yourself, accept that *you *took that risk.
God I was tripping out of my mind and the only thought was to respond and say how bad it was. sorry i bent your rules =/
the only way i knew about making this account for this board was because i recorded everything on hyper cam. but yeah i was tripping bad so im not going to do any more of that
I’m a pediatric nurse in a children’s hospital. We get quite a few stupid teenagers every week that use this stuff—they freak out, hallucinate, injure themselves, and have to be hospitalized. Artificial cannabis has shittier side effects than the real stuff, apparently.
I think a lot of that has to do with either smoking way too much of it, as you only need a very little (well, you* used* to…the government has yet again recently banned the newer versions of this stuff that still got you high…I can’t find anything anymore that will do anything but make you cough) or they are getting stuff that’s had a bunch of garbage put into it.
Is any website still selling any herbal incense that’s legal and really, um…strong smelling?
http://www.herbimport.com is where I’ve always bought my Mojo. On the, you know, three times I’ve bought it. It lasts a really, really long time when you do it as infrequently as we do.
You get that guru stuff? Its the only thing I see listed there.
The stuff I’ve gotten in the past isn’t listed there anymore, so I don’t know what the status is. I haven’t tried that stuff.
The law keeps changing to keep making the newer concoctions illegal…bastards.
I’ve still barely made a dent in the tiny jar I got a year ago. We don’t do it very often.
I use to smoke mary jane on the reg…however i started getting drug tested at work. This was about the time K2 had been banned and they had just came out with Summit and all of those other shitty ones. So I went to the local headshop to see about this new legal shit. I bought some Summit and my buddy bought some shit called King Cobra. Both were extremely harsh to inhale but the buzz was decent. Very short termed buzz compared to marijuana, but a decent buzz. So we went up a few different times trying different shit. We had a similar experience with all of them. Very harsh on the lungs and throat and a decent buzz but nothing compared to the real thing. Then I started surfing the net and doing some research. I ended up getting 4 4 gram containers of funky monkey for $80(2 funky monkey xxxx, 1 funky monkey xxx, and funky monkey jungle juice). As far as price by the gram goes its pretty much the same as pott. To this day, trying many more since then, funky monkey xxxx is in my opinion the closest legal aternative to the real thing. Dont get me wrong…if I could go back to pott I would but if your looking for something that you can smoke on and pass a drug test…this is the best in my opinion. If you’re trying it for the first time…you dont have to smoke half as much as you would pott. For me, 2 bong rips and im pretty good for about an hour. Like I said…it doesnt last as long as pott…but it doesnt take as much to get you high either.
This doesnt pertain to funky monkey, but as far as good legal highs…if you like a good psychedlic trip I recomend JWH 250. I bought it online…got it in the mail…just eyeballed a pinch out of the bag. It was 1 massive rip and I tripped balls. It definately sends you on a nice little trip. The 2 side effects(which I somewhat enjoyed but kinda sucked)that I experienced is it takes away all time perception and it makes you think there are other people in the room with you. As far as time perception goes…it doesnt make you lose track of time…you cant remember what time is as soon as you exhale. As far as the people being in the room. Its doesnt wig you out or anything…I just could have swore everytime I did it that there were people sitting on my couch while I was tripping. I would compare it to Salvia or shrooms.
What is “pott”?
Umm, isn’t JWH250 (or some other VERY similar JWHxxx compound) THE active ingredient in “funky monkey” and other similar “herbal incense” products? You describe one as being like pot and the other ostensibly being like 'shrooms and say the two things don’t pertain to each other, but aren’t they in fact the same thing?
My son is in ICU after suffering a grand mal seizure from this crap. He’s in ICU, and we don’t know when he’ll get out. If you want to mess with this stuff, that’s up to you, but I would run hard and run fast!
You have to be an utter fool to smoke this stuff.
It is a synthetic, unregulated substance that can cause ongoing confusion, hyper-paranoia, extreme anxiety and fearfulness, neurological damage, seizures, combativeness, cardiac (ECG) abnormalities, and a very frightening disconnect from reality.
Oh yeah. And death.
Actually, there are more than 50 synthetic cannaboids - each as unpredictable as the last - which are sold in the form of incense, bath salts and potpourri.
I’ve seen the results up close and personal.
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