There’s no reason to invest it with that much meaning. Liberal (if we take him at his word) wants not to post here, wants not to be tempted. Fine, but that’s not addiction, that’s why I don’t keep a jar of gumdrops on my desk. The guy’s been posting here a dozen times a day for seven years. If it has suddenly become a disruptive force in his life, he doesn’t say so. There’s no evidence for any behavioral aberration or unbreakable habit on his part, so to posit such is an unjustified and unnecessary explanation for his latest foray into the spotlight, which I should think would be viewed with the same degree of alarm and confusion as a full moon.
I have a hard time viewing the request as a plea for help because of its sheer absurdity. “Request for suspension or ban?” As I mentioned before, these two things are not nohow alike. When the lead actress shrinks into a corner of the stage and whispers, “I cannot suffer to live,” she’ll be taken seriously. When she sweeps onto the stage honking a bicycle horn and shrieking “I WANT TO DIE!!! Or maybe take a nap. Whichever, you decide…” laughter is the appropriate response. Someone needs to ask Liberal which he wants, the dramatic but permanent ban, or the reversible but decidedly unheroic suspension, and then give it to him. Right away.
Ah, I see the source of your confusion here. No, I was using the word “crutch” in the more colloquial sense of something which serves as an unneeded expedient–something one unnecessarily relies on. Like drinking to deal with one’s problems. I think Lib is perfectly capable of walking away from here on his own; the fact that he’s not posted here since he made his (very) public request is good evidence of that.
So what if he’s capable of walking away? Being banned might make it easier for him, and where’s the shame in that? We’re a species of intelligent creatures who do things to make our lives easier; there’s no virtue in making life more difficult than it needs to be.
He asked a minor favor of someone. That someone may or may not be willing to oblige. At what point does it become your concern?
So what if he’s capable of walking away? Being banned might make it easier for him, and where’s the shame in that? We’re a species of intelligent creatures who do things to make our lives easier; there’s no virtue in making life more difficult than it needs to be.
He asked a minor favor of someone. That someone may or may not be willing to oblige. At what point does it become your concern?
At the point where Lib decides to post a dramatic OP about it. He could’ve kept it private. Really, Daniel, I’m not sure why this is unclear. If he really didn’t want this huge drama, he wouldn’t have invited the inevitable Pit thread by posting that ATMB thread. It was classic Lib. “Misinterpret this however you wish” my tattooed ass.
A. the request was public - his choice.
B. the request was ambiguous - his choice.
C. there are, indeed, many posters who dislike him. He knows this.
D. There are, indeed, many posters who have positive feelings for him. He knows this as well.
E. He’s a long term, prolific poster. When was the last time you saw any such person leave the board in a public manner w/o a pit thread?
F. the manner of the request was also something he’d done before, and pit threads were always the result.
why on earth would any reasonable person think “this time, there won’t be a pit thread” ?
Mainly,Tuba locked a dramatic request made by a high profile poster. Said high profile poster has taken these hiatuses before, but I don’t recall he’s ever made the request for hiatus public before. Personally, I don’t see how “I need a break, please put me on suspension for X number of days” can be misread, but that’s just me.
The thread could’ve been started in MPSIMS, but it was going to be started. Considering the amount of hostility leveled both by and at Lib in the past month or so, though, Shodan was quite correct in saying it’d end up here anyhow.
Have I not said over and over that it was silly for him to make it public? You and I agree about that. I disagree with QED that it was irresponsible to make the request at all.
Sigh … the Pit thread was only “inevitable” because there are so many people who want to jump on him, even when he hasn’t said jack since. There’s a Pit thread because there’s so many people with nothing better to do than to add to it. Clear now? :rolleyes:
Apparently his request to be ignored is too hard for some of you to comply with. But to call him a drama queen because of *your * lack of a life is just sad.
You might have a valid point if he’d not made said request in the manner he ultimately chose to. Others have addressed this point as well, and better than I could have. Go read it again, and then tell me honestly if you truly think that’s the result of a person taking responsibility, or someone passing responsibility to someone else.
Read his request again, you mean? Sure: it’s taking responsibility, by any meaningful measure. And sure, doing it in a public manner is kinda silly, but no great crime.
Oh, please. If someone truly wants to be ignored, he doesn’t climb up to the roof, wave his arms about wildly and scream at anyone passing by how he wishes to be ignored and would someone please cut out his vocal cords. Or push him off the roof. Whatever.
Because sure as shit, that’s the one thing guaranteed not to get you ignored.
Well, not irresponsible so much as, um…what’s a diplomatic word for hypocritical and melodramatic? Hypocritical because Lib claims to be all about personal responsibility. Yet he can’t be bothered to just exercise some self control and not post. Melodramatic because April 15th really isn’t all that far away. He could’ve just allowed his subscription to lapse. It would’ve accomplished the same thing.
This particular pit thread is here because Shodan wanted to ask him to stay. I assume you are condemning both the people who want Lib to stay, as well as those who want him to go.
Have I not said over and over that it was silly for him to make it public? You and I agree about that. I disagree with QED that it was irresponsible to make the request at all.