Lit Drama - FX's Damages

Who was Lila’s grandfather? Wasn’t he associated with Patti Hewes? And the most recent episode finally explained the connection between Ray Fiske and Gregory Molina, and, I think, explained why Patti Hewes left town, and was so upset. I heard that the show is going to renewed for a second season, but I hope they wrap up the Frobisher storyline and David’s murder before the end of the current one.

I don’t think Lila’s grandfather is a player. Are you thinking of Uncle Pete, the old guy who hangs out in Patty’s office? I’m not sure who he is – a retired partner, maybe?

Lurkmeister, TWOP doesn’t recap it. I don’t remember everything that happened but here it is anyway, probably out of sequence.

We see David coming home and finding three strange men in his apartment. They said they were checking for leaks, but one of them was messing with a lamp, so maybe they were planting bugs. David didn’t check anything, just told them to get out.

Patty came to Ellen’s apartment, offered her her job back, Ellen declined. But Ellen said she wanted Patty to win the case, so she agreed to meet with George Moore again.

George had given Ellen photos and some documents showing that Malina and Fiske were in Florida at the same time as Frobisher, and that Fiske had given Malina some Frobisher shares, and that Malina sold them. That’s the stuff that Ellen gave to Patty last week. This week, Patty confronted Fiske with it, said she had to use it in the case. Blackmail, pretty much.

There were flashbacks with Fiske and Malina, who had become friends while they were in Florida. It ended with Fiske trying to kiss Malina. Malina didn’t respond, Fiske was apologetic and both of them were uncomfortable.

After Patty confronted Fiske, he went home to his wife, told her to pack, they were leaving the country. Somehow (I don’t remember), he ended up back at Patty’s office, where Patty laid it on thick, how she’d have to use the Malina stuff but that it’d all blow over, and Fiske could then come to work for her. It looked like Fiske was going for it. He left Patty’s office but came back a few minutes later and shot himself in front of Patty. (The drop of blood on Patty’s shoe was Fiske’s, not David’s or Ellen’s.)

Oh, and Fiske got a letter from Malina telling him about the videotape he made.

Ellen had confronted George about the info she got from the Watkins woman, that George torpedoed the SEC investigation. George told Ellen to meet him the next night and he’d give her more stuff, but when Ellen showed up, George was dead, in his car, bullet in the head.

We saw Katie lingering in the shadows near either Ellen’s or Patty’s apartment. We saw Lila in Ellen’s apartment, sitting at Ellen’s computer. We saw Patty’s son meeting Patty and saying she was hot.

David and Ellen are getting along fine, so whatever happens to make David break the engagement must have happened very shortly before he was killed.

So, that’s how things are in their family! :wink:

:stuck_out_tongue: I meant Ellen, you perv!

But now that you mention it . . .

I remember now. Lila’s grandfather was supposed to have died, and yet we saw him alive in an episode about a month ago. And at one point Lila stole and copied David’s keys, which is probably how the goon got into their apartment. (Which is rented from Patty, isn’t it? If so, wouldn’t she already have a key? So does that mean Lila works for Frobisher?)

Patty pulled some strings to get Ellen’s apartment at a rent Ellen and David could afford.

I don’t think the guys we saw got keys from Lila, but anything’s possible. Didn’t someone surprise Ellen in her apartment – guy who said he was delivering water? (Looks like everybody has keys except you and me.)

Lila might work for Frobisher, but would he tell her to keep after David after being rejected by him? Ellen found out that three people have taken restraining orders out on Lila, and Lila even went to Ellen’s office and told her she was having an affair with David. That’s more stalker than spy. Unless Frobisher also faked the restraining orders! :slight_smile:

Fiske’s suicide kills my theory that he set Frobisher up. It was stupid last week when Fiske told Frobisher about the divorce, right before the deposition. Since Fiske isn’t stupid, it seemed like he did it on purpose, knowing that Frobisher would be emotionally off kilter during the deposition.

So now we know that Frobisher really did do insider trading or securities fraud, whatever it was. What we don’t know is who killed David and Malina, and who attacked Ellen.

I think there’s more to the story of the Arlington accident, but maybe not. The photos that Patty was looking at, at her beach house? TWOP’ers say they’re photos of a young Glenn Close/Patty, but why would she look at photos of herself when her world is falling apart? Could be the woman in the Arlington accident was someone close to Patty, like a sister.

Don’t you love twisty mysteries that play out over a long time? Much better than stuff that gets solved in 44 minutes, where the villain is always the big name guest star.

Thanks, Auntie Pam, I am now less confused than I was after watching this week’s episode (which I did manage to record properly).

I have a feeling that after the show finally concludes (13 episodes, did someone say?) I’m going to be waiting for the DVD set to come out so I can watch it from beginning to end and catch all the twists I lose track of a three-month period.

I’m still watching. This is a hell of a show with lots of suspense, and Glenn Close is terrific.

Only 2 eps left!

I almost wish they’d put a re-mix on the DVD – show us what happened in chronological order, incorporate the flashbacks. Otherwise, somebody’s gonna need to draw me a diagram.

We have to believe that Frobisher did something that affected Patty personally. We’ve heard her say it’s not about the money – she wants Frobisher destroyed.

What could it be?

Well, if it’s 13 episodes it would have to be on three or four DVDs, which would make it hard to give you the option of watching the whole story in chronological order. Although that it is an interesting idea. (Didn’t the DVD of Memento give you the option of watching the movie in chronological order?)

Yeah, it’d be spaced out over several disks, but I’d like the option. Or maybe an extra feature with the timeline, and no flashbacks.

It’s gotten a bit less confusing, the closer we get to the end. We saw blood on Patty’s shoe before we saw how it got there, so we didn’t know whose blood it was. And we didn’t know that she left town (apparently) right after Fiske’s death, so Patty didn’t know that David was dead and Ellen had been arrested.

At least that’s where they’re leading us. So far, it looks like the only death Patty is directly responsible for is Katie’s dog.

The LA Times reported that the show hasn’t yet been renewed for a second season and that the show runners have already changed their mind about who killed David.

I heard that too, but I heard they changed their minds early on.

Not that it matters, because any change in culprits isn’t good.

If there’s going to be a second season, they have to keep Patty. Ellen isn’t a good enough character to hang a show on. So Patty can’t be responsible for any deaths. Killing the dog was bad enough. Patty has to be someone we can root for, sorta.

I wonder how the ratings have been. Hard to believe FX hasn’t picked it up already, unless the producers intended it to be a one-off and don’t have more stories planned. Or if Glenn Close has other plans.

<sigh> Another dead faggot on TV. Not that I didn’t know it was inevitable but still, I had some vain hope that they’d do something different.

But Otto, I don’t think he’s dead because he’s gay, because of the blackmail. I think he killed himself because he realized he’d lost his principles, when he agreed to go along with Patty. It had nothing to do with being gay. Well, almost nothing. He wasn’t shamed by being gay, he was shamed by selling out.

According to Michael Ausiello of TV Guide, Damages has been renewed for a second season, alhtough FX hasn’t confirmed it.

I think he WAS shamed by being gay, and realized that, in order to do the right thing and help convict Frobisher, he’d have to reveal why he gave Gregory Malina the Frobisher shares. That would completely screw up his life, so he gave up and offed himself. I too was disappointed in that plot development, since it’s a pretty tired plot twist. Also, I liked Ray and felt for him. The episode where he was having those scary dreams was really affecting and intense. I hoped for his redemption, but I don’t think this show’s going to have much redemption for anyone.

Also, like others, I’m curious about who killed David, and if Lila is working for someone or if she’s a lone psycho who just happened to stalk someone involved in a larger, unrelated plot. Ellen said she had a police record for stalking, so it might be just a coincidence. Which would be pretty weird, you have to admit.

But Fiske giving Malina those shares wouldn’t prove that Fiske is gay. It’s all innuendo and supposition, and Fiske seems strong enough to weather that. Malina’s dead – Fiske can say anything he wants about why he gave him the shares. It’s telling Malina to sell that causes the trouble.

I don’t know. It’s six of one, half dozen of the other. Fiske’s crush led him to do something dishonest. Hard to say whether it was the crush or the illegal act that most shamed him.

Who plays the other lawyer from Fiske’s law firm? The character’s last name is Phillips, I think. He’s a “hey it’s that guy” guy.

Garrett Dillahunt – do you remember him from Deadwood, or something else?

I’m trying to figure out who’s the guy in the Nip/Tuck previews – looks like he’s a hotshot L.A. plastic surgeon.