Lose the fucking hetero guilt, you liberal pantywaists!

I fail to see any hetero guilt after careful review of my post…

Go for it. Hell, I don’t like them either, except for my own.

Whew. 'Cause I really really don’t like 'em. I came out of one screaming and crying and never looked back.

:eek: I always thought you were a woman. :confused:

She is. She doesn’t like vaginas except for her own.

Does this mean that both my sons, having been spared this trauma, will be straight?

(My fingers wanted to type “safe”. Even I am really not as bigoted as that!)

I thought it was Athena, a goddess, that sprung fully formed from the head of Zeus?

Okay, I’m guessing C-Section, but the Zeus reference entertains me more

There you go, turning the stealth mode on again.

:stuck_out_tongue:

Yah. Son #1 got his head stuck and wouldn’t shift even with forceps, so they did an emergency section; and after such a rough time trying to deliver him, Mrs M decided she’d prefer an elective second time round.

SolGrundy’s gag reminds me of the one that goes “We’re born naked, wet, hungry and crying. Then it gets worse.” :slight_smile:

What he said.

May I borrow this as a sig? And insert the word “vagina” where it says “'em?”

Dana Gould has a joke that went something like, “We all came into this world screaming, naked, and covered in blood. I intend to go out the same way.”

I don’t get this. (Wait, are you bi or straight up homo?) Lesbian sex seems so dull to me. I mean, I read Rubyfruit Jungle. I saw the Vagina Monologues. I admit, some of the descriptions of lesbian sex there were very erotic. I actually totally understood that whole magical, spiritual experience they got at. But to watch it? Seems so freaking dull. The whole girl-on-girl thing just does absolutely zero for me. On the other hand, most gay male porn I’ve seen (which isn’t much) has this really overbearing creepy vibe to it that I can’t explain, and the guys are usually really ugly. Straight porn can be okay, if it’s interesting, but frankly, most porn in general is not interesting. I don’t like much porn at all, if you mean people having sex with each other. I’d much rather look at plain ol’ nudey pics, or maybe videos of guys by themselves.

Anyway, the thought of sex with a girl? I just don’t think I’d be able to perform. The whole underpants coverage area doesn’t upset me or anything (though it’s apparently really, really complicated.) I just don’t particularly want to hang out there. No repulsion, just no attraction.

So can I ask the hetero men (specifically, the ones who are actively repulsed by gay sex) a question? Sorry if this is too much, but is the idea of being penetrated (either in the butt or the mouth) the upsetting part? I can grok that - the mechanics of it are, well, rather far afield of the average straight guys repertoir. Is the thought of having a guy go down on you actively disgusting as well, or more just uninteresting?

Aah Excalibre. Haven’t we met before? :smiley:

I’m not one of the guys “actively repulsed” by gay sex, but I can definitely tell you I find it uninteresting. Leaping between the sheets with another man would be no better or worse for me that doing likewise with a filing cabinet. It’s not the gayness part that bothers me, but the lack of the straightness part. There’s just something missing. All the “bits” would be wrong. I find the naked male form rather humourous if anything. A penis is a humourous object. Certainly not disgusted by it, but completely left cold.

A gay friend of mine took me to a gay pub years ago, and there was X-rated gay porn on the widescreen. My friend caught me staring at it, and he apologised and thought I was disturbed by it. My reaction was more “No man, this is gold! snerk”. I’m sure straight porn is likewise if you’re not straight. In fact all sex has an element of the ridiculous about it, and it’s only sexual arousal that can override that, I think. Take away the arousal and the silly side of it is right there.

Excalibre: I’m bi. As for why lesbian sex appeals to me, who knows? I suspect a large part of it was sublimation. For a long time, I didn’t want to admit to myself that I was into guys at all. But I could watch girl-on-girl stuff, and I’d be watching gay sex that was hetero-approved. Even so, now that I’m actually having gay sex on a regular basis, there’s still a huge attraction for me there, so there’s probably more to it than just that. I dunno. It just works for me.

Also, I want to state for the record how much I absolutely detested The Rubyfruit Jungle. Loathesome book.

Excalibre:

Not really. I will say that I have zero interest in anal or oral sex, but that’s without regard for the sex of the person I’d be doing (or not doing) it with. But one of my favorite forms of sex involves things that one can do with one’s dry fingertips —something that gay guys are every bit as well-equipped for as hetero women. Where was I going with this? Umm, I don’t think it has anything to do with any particular act being icky to me. And I will grant readily enough that there are hypothetical situations in which I could get off on things being done to me if (i.e., even if) the person doing them was male. It’s just that I have no urge to go have those experiences, whereas if I contemplate hypothetical situations involving a woman, the contemplation is arousing and there’s a compulsion to daydream about such things, and a craving for such things to actually happen.

Hey! Some of my best friends are heterose… Oh never mind! :stuck_out_tongue:

Esprix

I don’t think it’s contrarian of you at all. I haven’t spotted a single post by a queer person (that I know of) that took a different tack.

For the record, I’m only disgusted by straight sex when I’m actually looking at it – I had a lot of friends in high school who were into porn. Otherwise, it’s a purely abstract concept for me. But I can similarly understand that straight people would find gay sex disgusting, and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.

But even still, I think the reason people are being very careful with their words in that thread, Freejooky is because there are a lot of people who do confuse being disgusted with the sex to being disgusted with the people who have it. That’s the problem. So it makes sense for people to be clear about that.

No, the penetration is the least part of it. I like a lot of foreplay, and cuddling and snuggling afterward. Even the brief thought of me doing these things with another male gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Very off-putting. I just don’t want a guy messin’ with me down there. I might even feel…ewwwww,WHISKERS! :slight_smile:

Actually, I can relate to this. I know a lot of people who just sort of make out with others, without regard to sex, just because they enjoy it. But I don’t think I could stand to kiss a girl. I’ve seen and once touched the ‘parts unknown’ (partially due to curiosity) but kissing a girl squicks me somehow. I think it has to do with my personal absolute disgust with mouths (they’re so icky and germ-filled!) and it’s only being sexually interested that can make me overcome that.

But cuddling and snuggling with girls? If I ever had a problem with that, I’d have gotten over it long ago. Girls like to cuddle, and if the only guy around is gay, it doesn’t seem to stop them. Personally, I could care less about cuddling, but girls insist on it.

I’m mystified myself. All I can tell you is visual depictions of attractive women engaging in homosexual activity is highly arousing to me, a heterosexual man, which you already knew. My wife thinks it’s incredibly silly (her hetero gal friends concur), some of our gay friends find the thought repugnant (I tell you, nobody harshes on dykes like some of the theater queens we know), and God wants me to go to Hell for it. I’ve given up trying to figure it out.

Again, it seems to defy intellectualization. My first response is to recoil, plain as that. I have actually had “standard” hetero anal intercourse with a woman on a couple of occasions, and I found even that surprisingly uninteresting. Hetero even furrow their eyebrows over that, and you’ll see plenty of hetero men here say they enjoy getting penetrated themselves by their gal partners. Me? Uh-uh. No way. I actually feel self-conscious about stating that here in this forum, because my suspicion is others will regard such a “confession” as an attempt to lamely assert my pure manlihood and/or as being indicative of homophobic sexual repression and all-around uptightedness. Be that as it may, I can only say plainly I just don’t like the idea and want nothing to do with it. If I’m something of a prig, then I suppose I can’t really help it without going to lengths I have no interest in exploring (not that I think you’re accusing me of such a thing at all; it’s merely my own admission).

And at the risk of sharing too much, feeling whiskers down there is a huge turn-on for some of us. Human beings are just weird.

You’re a straight guy who doesn’t want to get done up the ass. And that makes you a prig? I don’t get it. For what it’s worth, I think anybody who confuses acceptance/tolerance/none-of-my-business-ness about gay sex with actually wanting to have gay sex, has issues. Hell, they’ve got a subscription.