They can - my mother was a very petite woman and she was nothing but a huge belly when she was pregnant with me.
Remember what Walt said to Locke about why he burned it… he doesn’t want to leave. Anyone else think that Walt might be adversely affecting their luck? He got what he wanted on the opening roll… again. I think that until Walt wants to leave, nobody’s getting off the island.
Here’s a thread on another board that translates the unsubtitled Korean.
I’ll spoiler this in case there are those who don’t want to know.
Jin saw Walt set the raft on fire. Sun chose not to translate this and protected Walt. Jin also could have pointed to Walt and indicated he set the fire when it was obvious Sun didn’t translate it but he didn’t.
Whoa!
Why would they leave that plot point out? Or are they planning to re-reveal it sometime later?
Oh! It’s like a little Lost Easter egg! I love it! Two thumbs up for the unsubtitled Korean.
IMO, Jin didn’t “start over” because he knows that there are points of no return, where you just can’t start over, not ever. Jin understands this because when he became an enforcer, he lost his innocence. He knew that starting over with Sun would mean honesty, which would mean telling her about her father, and then she would lose her innocence too. He loved her too much to do that to her. If you look at it that way, then Jin leaving Sun was the most loving thing he could have done. Since he knows the pain of not feeling pride in his father, he didn’t want Sun to hurt like that too. Whether Sun suspected already (which she probably does) is moot, because if Jin spilled the beans then he would be responsible. Leaving Sun to her suspicions doesn’t carry the same weight as being directly responsible for dishonouring her father and seeing her face while he does it.
Good ep. Nice shots of Sun! Of course it was obvious that Jin’s father was not dead, that he was ashamed.
Who was the new guy-- the one with a beard near Hobbit when they were watching Jin and Mike fight? Was that Scott or Steve (I forge which one died last week).
Pretty cool having Hurley on the TV in Korea. Must have been…
… a news broadcast about his Lottery win. I was also thinking back to when Hurley told Walt he’d pay him the $80k or whatever it was he owed him after the backgammon match. Hurely wasn’t kidding!
Great fuckin’ episode. At about the forty minute mark, I’m thinking, “Hey, not a lot happening on the island, but the backstory revelations are just… whoa.” And then Sun speaks up, and the skulls of everyone on the beach split in two. 
Gotta say, though… ShakyCam was particularly irritating in this one. I’m not gonna stop watching, but I’m starting to consider Dramamine. Y’know?
Anybody else think it strange that Jin was going overseas to deliver watches to Sun’s father’s business associates? When Jin told his dad, dad responds with ‘quit and run away to America’! Is there something I’m missing in regards to the significance of his mission?
Also, what is the Chinese character on Boone’s shirt? I keep meaning to ask this and always forget. It looks like a caret over a plus sign over a wide oval with two vertical dividers.
Very strong episode. I really wasn’t expecting the culprit to be who it was, but when I found out, it wasn’t really a shock. I see the logic of it…
Walt reasons the only way a child can–simply. He doesn’t want to move around, doesn’t want to leave.
And may I say again that Yunjin Kim is a stunningly good performer? She is even more heartbreaking in this one than she was in the ep. where she nearly left hubby at the airport.
Walt burning the raft came as no surprise to me.
After Michael talked to Walt about New York, and Walt’s response was pretty much a resounding “meh.” At the commercial break, I told my husband, “Walt doesn’t want to leave the island, and he’ll make sure he doesn’t leave.”
I was right!
Since this isn’t the first time it’s been mentioned, I have to respond to this.
Being 6 months pregnant myself, I’ve been going to all kinds of parenting/new baby/birthing classes lately. I would guess, out of the women I see, a good 20% of them are built like Claire–very slender with a beach-ball of a belly. Maybe it’s because I’m in L.A. and there’s still that weird pressure for some women to not gain a ton of weight, even during pregancy, but it does happen.
The one tip-off that I saw that gave it away that Claire wasn’t really pregnant? A previous episode had a shot of her sleeping on her back. Pregnant women, especially once they’ve hit their third trimester, are told to NOT sleep on their backs, as the weight of the baby can put serious pressure on a major artery, causing a decrease in blood flow to the mother’s brain.
This week’s MEME hits full stride with the clever title, “In Translation,” which is a reference to last year’s atmospheric film, LOST IN TRANSLATION, which, like this episode, featured themes of culture clashes (simple son of a fisherman Jin and his ruthless gangster father-in-law), isolation (Jin’s self-separation from the rest of the castways) and alienation (the growing split between Jin and Sun, and the stresses in their marriage owing to secrecy and mistrust).
Because much of the flashbacks in the episode center around Jin’s and Sun’s backstory, much of the dialogue is subtitled in English from Korean dialogue – a very loose interpretaion of “translation.”
As usual, “translation” itself has several meanings, which are addressed in this episode.
- a written communication in a second language having the same meaning as the written communication in a first language
Again, strictly speaking, what we’ve been reading on screen is not a translation (of written materials) but an interpretation (of oral speech) rendered for us to read. Purists may cringe, but the definition is otherwise close enough to be applicable.
- restating of something into other, usually simpler terms
Consider Walt’s complicated motives for not wanting to go in the raft expressed as “I didn’t want to move,” and the three adults covering for him: Jin and Sun by not literally pointing out Walt, and Locke for not revealing Walt’s actions.
- the act of changing in form or shape or appearance. SYN.: transformation, shift.
Several dynamics notably shifted in form, shape or appearance in the course of this episode. Among the most significant:
Michael and Jin (From contention to truce)
Jin and Sun (From trustful to distrustful)
Sayid and Shannon’s (From flirtatious friendship to openly romantic)
the raft, (From purposeful to unsalvageable)
the castaway community, (From infighting to wariness: for the first time it’s openly stated that the castaways are not the only people on the island, that there is a mavolent community nearby.)
Hurley’s CD player (from functional to dead)
So, what did we learn this week?
Jin’s a good guy (no big surprise here)
Those watches are important - didn’t the fight between Michael and Jin start because Jin saw Michael with one of his watches? There was a closeup of one of the watches in this episode too - it wasn’t running. I checked. I’m guessing something was being smuggled in these watches, but what? Something that could help them? Probably.
Whatever the island/Locke is doing, it’s done it to Shannon now. That makes Boone, Charlie, Shannon, Walt?, Michael?, Claire? Anyone else? Locke, I guess. There’s an interesting theme about separation from their old lives going on. And personally, I’m no longer sure that they’re building up to a big schism or that the island/Locke is malevolent.
Jin doesn’t speak English. That POV scene on the beach was convincing to me.
Sun’s not pregnant. Not in THAT bikini! Yowzah! Seriously, though, she gave a reason for returning to her husband (“You made me feel like you still love me”), which mystery was, I think, one of the main reasons for suspecting pregnancy.
Walt’s one freaky-ass kid. I think it was interesting his conversation with Locke was over backgammon - back to the black/white thing. Come to think of it, Walt and Locke themselves are a black/white pair.
Bring on the Hurley episode!!!
“Maybe we should get some rope and see what happens” Heh!
I’m coming back to the same things I loved with Angel and BtVS - characters that aren’t all bad or all good but a little bit of both. It was an extremely good ep for shifting my perception of Jin from a wooden thug,caugfht up in ambition, to a really tragic figure.
Sidenote: I’m pissed off that those who’re into guys get so many hot men to drool over: Sayid, Jin, Jack, Sawyer, Michael, Locke (for those inclined to the Sean Connery magic). The women are kinda bland. Shannon, vapid California Girl, Kate, looks like a scared ferret, Sun is kinda good looking but way to shy and demured. Claire’s nice, but she’s too young, just out of her teens.
…son of a bitch 
This episode reminded me why Lost is one of the greatest shows on television.
1)Sun in a bikini.
2)The shaky cam stuff when Jin was getting hauled around. Not a lot of straight shots shown. Quite a few shoulders, chins, etc. It really brought things to Jins perspective.
3)The jibberish Jin heard when everyone was yelling. Really rammed home the point that Jin does not speak english.
- The closing song going from tinny headphone sound to full sound music to dead bloody battery. “Son of a bitch”
5)Sun in a bikini again. And now she’s single. Does anybody know of an airline that can fly over a fictional island?
This was a really good episode. Didn’t solve any mysteries but at least it didn’t add any either. It did move a lot of characters around.
The flirt is strong in Sayid, and Shannon possibly may become a less irritating character. I also really liked the part between Shannon and Locke. The look on her face was priceless. “Do I get mad at him for lecturing me or should I be happy that he told me what I wanted to hear?” Twas a great smile/scowl. / :mad:
Good to see Locke dropping the guru crud and just saying things straight. Maybe now we can stop hearing what a mysterious and sinister figure Locke is.
And next week, Hurley!!!
I also wondered what kind of super long-lasting batteries Hurley was using when he started up the CD player, and then laughed when they ran out right at the end.
For a second, I thought something was wrong with my TV.
I’m also sick of the shakey-camera effects. Can’t stand it.
I caught Hurley on the TV right away. He was shown twice, once outside of a car, waving, and then a moment later in the car driving away. I’m dying to get his backstory.
But he didn’t. He knew Walt burned the raft, but said it was the Others. Walt doesn’t want off the island, and neither does Locke. Locke does want to find and confront the others.
I think Locke is good, too, but this isn’t strong evidence for it. At least we know he didn’t do it.
I like shows that reward you for paying attention. I want to know where he was sitting on the plane. Why he’s something of a warrior. Why he’s no good around blood. How he got the name “Hurley.” And what was he doing on the news in Korea? And why does no one seem to recognize him if he’s somewhat newsworthy?
The actor who plays Hurley was on an episode of ‘Curb your Enthusiasm’ (HBO) a few years back. I think the clip on tv is from that episode.
It was the show where Larry David buys pot for his father; Hurley was the dealer.
She said it in English, but I think this was a plot trick. She was still speaking in Korean, but since this was a major emotional point, they didn’t want to trust it to captioning. I’m sure she was speaking Korean the whole time, and TPTB decided to let us “understand” her Korean for those few lines.
I think Walt needs an ass-whuppin’. He doesn’t want to leave, he likes it there, so he commits arson? Uh-uh, way not cool.
I also thought that might have been Hurley on the TV, but how much would he have had to win on the lottery for it to hit international news? Must have been a Mega-Super-Ultimate Powerball in the neighborhood of a couple billion.
And how did Locke know it was Walt and not The Others who burned the raft?