And he can just beat Locke with his Jesus stick. 
That’s cool. We’re free to disagree. I love the actor who plays Locke, so I’m not taking any of this too personally. You make a good point about his being able to hold his own in a fight with just about anyone. He does seem pretty tough, and I’d rather not mess with someone who travels with a suitcase full of knives, has an encyclopaedic knowledge about survival in the wild, kills large boars and faces down mysterious tropical polar bears.
I just think he’s been kinda pussy about who he chooses to dominate physically and I think dominating people physically is pussy in general. If Jack & Sayid & Sawyer wanna get into it, let 'em. Punching out Charlie just seems pussy. Claire already smacked him.
I don’t think anyone else has really given Locke a reason to punch them. Charlie was waaaaaay out of line, and probably deserved a good Jesus stick beating.
I don’t see Locke as trying to bully the weak so much as express anger and punish someone who’d put everyone in danger (probably, from his perspective, due to drug-induced craziness).
If Jack did something so selfish and stupid I don’t think Locke would have a problem with having the same reaction if it were appropriate. I don’t think he’d back down like a bully would when faced with someone who couldn’t be easily intimidated.
Which should be interesting. I get the feeling that there’s a showdown building either between Locke & Jack, or Locke & Eko. What will Locke do? Use his fists, or use his mind?
This is the first thing I thought on seeing the laundry scene. It just seemed improbable that after such a short time together she’d be all over him, as much as Hurley is a cool guy, he’s also unattractive, has no self confidence, and is surrounded by hunky single guys. The whole foot thing is a ruse, so Hurley knows her from somewhere else, I think she knows about the lottery.
On Locke, if it were someone else, like Sayid, he may not have punched him in the face, he’d be pulling a knife or gun instead. I don’t see him as a bully, but choosing to use an appropriate weapon, fists for Charlie, something a bit sturdier for a stronger opponent.
Emphasis mine. Locke only seems like he’s a tough guy, but I don’t think he actually is. He’s overcompensating, I think. Before he got on the island, he was a pushover. Now, he doesn’t have to be any more, because nobody knows who or what he was before. But he’s never actually done this wilderness survival stuff. This “badass-with-a-suitcase-full-of-knives” routine? It’s all an act. His behavior strikes me as the low-level panic of a poseur who just dropped the wrong name and got made.
very true… in a show where so many people have problematic relationships with their fathers, I see Locke as akng on some uber-father role for Claire/Aaron… only on Lost would the mothers not get the raw deal, psychologically speaking!
I couldn’t disagree more.
There are lots of people who are completely disenfranchised in modern society. They don’t feel as though they belong. Everything is safe and artificial and irrelevant. They crave something more primal, being forced into a situation where their own inner strength and skillset are crucial to their very existance.
When thrown into a wild situation like this, they find themselves in their element - the element they’ve always wanted to be in. There’s a transformation. They’re not hiding the apparent weakness they showed in society - that “weakness” wasn’t a weakness of will or character so much as the disenfranchisement I mentioned.
Pre-crash, Locke did not have the opportunity to be the man he is now, the man he’s always had the strength to be inside. Far from an act, he’s finally, more than anyone else, at home.
Apparently it was the sound of an airplane. A link to the scene - only visible on HDTV apparently:
Perhaps, but … is Locke’s transformation actually real? (We still have no idea why he can now walk.) And, if it is, and Locke actually is the man he always thought he could be, is he prepared to handle the consequences of that?
I have no doubt of that - his character has been entirely consistant with that and he is by far the most real character to me (ignoring the mystical stuff).
Here’s something interesting. This seems to show the drug plane crashing. Look at the top left of the image. It takes a little bit to completely load, then it’ll play over and over.
You mean, like, shooting Shannon?
I think Locke was motivated by:
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He cares for Aaron and Claire. Maybe there is a romantic tie, maybe it is just a protection of the weak thing.
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Charlie is his responsibility of sorts. He knew about Charlie’s problems and thought Charlie had made the right choice. When he thought he hadn’t, Locke may have felt guilty he did not do more.
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Charlie twice stole the baby. C’mon. The guy’s a baby snatcher who caught a fire. What more motivation do you need to put the smack down on someone? Locke had warned him to stay away from her. Charlie’s idea of staying away is burning down a field so he can run into the ocean with the baby.
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Betrayal. It is worse when one of your own does something bad than an outsider. CFL may have taken Aaron, but Charlie violated a trust.
Verdict: Justifiable Butt Whupping.
It just looked to me like she had cleaned herself up. The tailies were pretty ragged before they hooked up with the middies.
BTW, Claire looked like she had just come from the make-up department at Nordstrom’s. How about a little realism in that area, guys??
Don’t buy it. Last week Ecko SMASH the Virgin Mary. Later, Ecko burned a whole mess of the Virgins Mary. Evil Ecko?
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This was what I got from the scene too.
I think it was a combination of dissapointment and frustration.
Anyway, Charlie absolutely had it coming.
No, good Ecko. Ecko give Virgin Mary to Charlie. Locke keep Virgin Mary hidden for himself. Bad Locke.
Trion like talk like this.
So, now that all losties have moved from the caves back to the beach and have access to unlimited fresh water from the hatch, why is Locke filling his water bottle from a horse tough sitting open on the beach?
It’s a good thing that they have an unlimited supply of blue tarps because after a few days in the sun and wind, those things start to look pretty ragged and develop rips and tears. In fifty days I would think that everyone would have had to replace those tarps at least once, if not a couple of times.
Did the monsoon season ever arrive, or was Artz full of it? When is cyclone season expected to arrive?
Don’t know if anyone has seen this — a jpg of a document from the oceanicworldair site…
