Lost 2.2: "Adrift"

No, Sayid heard the voices when he was running from CFL, so if she’s nuts, so is he. Plus, he’s kinda in love with a lady who’ll tie him up and speak french to him and then untie him so he can “fix her music box,” if you know what I mean. :dubious:

Yup and Ponster also tells me the Hurley joke was about snowballs …

And “hope,” you will recall, is exactly what Locke said he was expecting to find in the hatch.

Check out the white face and the dark face in the upper right corner – I don’t know what it means, but I know they’re talking about John Locke! Also, I count 12 stick figures in the upper left. I don’t know what that means, either, but it’s got to be bad. If being a stick figure is a good thing (e.g. surviving) that means 36 people won’t. If being a stick figure is a bad thing (e.g. getting sick, dying, winning a lifetime ticket to live inside the hatch) that means 12 people will.

I agree that the guy in the park with Michael is not Desmond (I now have an HDTV version to flip through).

I noticed that the 108-minute countdown didn’t start ticking once Locke reset it. What happened 108 minutes earlier that might have triggered the countdown that Locke disarmed?

[spoiler]I’ve found the following dialogue from Season 8, Episode 24, that really clears a lot of things up for me.

LOCKE: …but that still doesn’t explain the polar bear.
HAMMOND: What polar bear?
LOCKE: The one we killed the first week we arrived. There was a polar bear on the island!
HAMMOND: Really? That’s pretty wild.
FADE TO BLACK
[/spoiler]

Well, we started out with 14 “main” characters. Boone is dead and Walt is missing, leaving 12. Make of that what you will. :slight_smile:

Good idea. I hadn’t thought of that. It could have been 108 minutes since the hatch was blown. Perhaps if outsiders compromise the security of Desmond’s vault, it will automatically self-destruct after 108 minutes, unless he resets the alarm.

Does anybody remember offhand if the “alarm” that woke him up in the premiere was that beeping? And did he go right to the computer?

Yes on both counts.

This same system would also prevent Desmond’s escape. If the system senses people coming in, it would also sense Desmond’s departure. Not that he’s got anywhere to go. If his medicine is destroyed though, he’d succumb to the island’s infection.

I think it’s more literal: A white man and a black man. What other elements are there? Waves, fish, one shark, and a bunch of figures outside the water. (I don’t know how the two houses fit in with the rest.)

Apart from the pictograms, there are numeric figures: The sum of Hurley’s numbers, and one of them in isolation: 42. Given the number of times we see that arrangement of the eight I Ching trigrams in the hatch, it might make sense to look at hexagram 42 (Increase.) : The text of the oracle is:

The traditional commentary is:

(Don’t bother reading after that, it all refers to the changing lines you get if you actually cast the oracle. eg; each line of the hexagram has 4 possible states; “solid yin,” “solid yang,” “yin changing to yang,” or “yang changing to yin.” So a proper casting of the I Ching would be “Hexagram X” changing to “Hexagram Y”, and the additional stuff all refers to the significance of individual lines changing. It doesn’t refer to the raw meaning of the hexaqram.)

Anyway, the imagery of hexagram 42 seems to relate to the literal physical situation that Sawyer and Michael were in, and the commentary fits with the personal stuff that they were working through. That’s kind of neat.

While we’re free-associating, that Apollo bar is still on my mind, which could colour the sigificance of that big-assed arrow that’s between “(I) M SICK” and the sun. The sun is associated with Apollo, and the arrows of Apollo symbolize the sudden outbreak (and eventual cure) of contagious disease.

Come to think of it, in the Iliad, Apollo is called Apollo Smintheus (“Apollo Mouse-god”) in connection with his association with plague.

I’m sure there’s a connection between mice and the number 42.

“It sounds good…” :wink:

Dolphin, hmmm?

Well, he is bi-curious. :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s a shark. I saw the tail moving laterally, in the manner of a fish. The dorsal fin also was straight, not curved like a dolphin’s.

Well, what was going on when the Water Thing breached (or whatever it’s called), when all that appeared out of the water was the “V” of the tail? I’ve seen Shark Week like 15 times. Sharks don’t do that (do they?), and this thing did. Did no one else see that? I think there was a shark, but it was Not Alone.

Thanks for the link. :slight_smile: One thing I noticed is that everywhere I’ve read, they say that the mural says “m sick” and wonder what “m” means. However, there’s a pictograph of an eye right before it…

I’ve seen Great Whites leap into the air much like dolphins do, with their entire bodies out of the water. Did you not notice how the camera, showing the shark’s eye view, rocked back and forth-- left and right-- in the exact manner that a shark would swim? Dophins breach mainly to breathe. Did you see a blow-hole?

How did Kate get so far into Desmond’s cave? I assumed that he knocked her out as she descended and brought her further in. But when Locke showed up, Desmond asked him who she was. Wouldn’t he already know something about her?

No … the only “un-shark-like” behavior I saw was a tail coming out of the water and going back under, like the flukes of humpbacks that I’ve seen on whale watches (I think that behavior is called “lobtailing,” but maybe not). No blowhole, as I did not see the entire head or back of whatever it was. I saw the shark fin near the pontoon and I don’t doubt there are sharks in the water. I just think there may be something else too. But it sounds like nobody else saw what I thought I saw (except my husband, and he was with me at the time, so he is not a reliable source, I don’t think).

I have noticed that Walt is not in any promo pictures.

I’ve also noticed that we were to find out the fate of all the survivors and we didn’t find out about Walt.

Now I’m reading about the mural and the 12, not 14 main characters and the white face and the black face.

Oh, MAN! Well, you know…

I guess the poor little guy is dead. :frowning:

My Google ads are all for Pandora jewelry and beads.

By the way, Charlie is Pan.
As for the mural, what’s that thing in the far right corner near the light? It looks like it has two large front teeth. Could it be the rabbit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail?