Lost 2.23: "Live Together, Die Alone" [Season Finale] Open Spoilers

Curses! An entire night goes by without anyone else making the point I wanted to make, and then you scoop me while I’m writing! :smiley:

Why are we assuming that Maichael and WAAAAAAAAALT are going to actually leave on the boat? We know that Desmond (an experienced sailor) couldn’t get away in his ocean-going yacht. We know that the Other’s lil’ tub isn’t suitable for the open sea. So why will Micael escape (even though we all desperately want to get rid of him)?

Oh yeah, has anyone put any thought into the title?

Who died? Or did Locke and Ecko not die because at the very end they were together in the room?

Anyone?

-Joe

I’m guessing that would be the one that brought down Flight 815.

If they were in the Antarctic, somewhere under the central Pacific, then they could have called Penelope in Britain. That would account for the day/night difference.

I haven’t seen anyone mention this yet, but wasn’t Michael getting sick at one point??

Minor little thing I noticed. In the flashback laundry room, there was actually a jug of Purex brand laundry detergent. That’s the first non-Dharma branded goods I’ve seen on the island. Well, that and Apollo bars.

I heard that too. Of course, Michael didn’t manage to say “what what what?”

[Henry as Mr. Burns]

Release the Dharma-logo, boat-eating sharks.

[/Henry as Mr. Burns]

I’m staring at it now and you got it right.

“Release the Dharma-brand™ boat-eating sharks.”

:slight_smile:

-Joe

  1. I was right (or mostly right) about Fake Henry being a leader among the Others; yay for me.

  2. I’m thinking that Sayid is still out there, maybe even pretty close to the dock and might be able to see what’s going on. Guerrilla warfare, anyone?

  3. I really, REALLY wanted to see Michael and Walt get blown up on that boat. Does that make me evil?

  4. I wish Charlie had been killed in the blast. Again; does that make me evil?

Just remembered something that occured to me. Isn’t this the first time we have had a scene not on (or near) the Island that wasn’t in a flashback? And doesn’t this pretty much eliminate all of the “they’re in another time” or “the rest of the world has been destroyed” theories?

  1. Props for you!

  2. Maybe more like piracy. He’s on the boat with Jin and Sun. Maybe they can run down and sink Michael. (See #3)

  3. See #2.

  4. No. Twisted, maybe. But not evil.

Given the Nigerian plane, I’m still halfway convinced the island is a mobile platform.

Did anyone notice that the name of Elizabeth/Libby’s dead husband was David?

Dave, of course, was Hurley’s “friend” in the psych ward – and Libby was there at the same time.

Zev Steinhardt

This brings up other things that the island/electromagnet are speculated to have caused. Specifically the healing of Locke, Rose, and Jin. Will Locke be back to the wheelchair? Will Rose’s cancer return? Will Jin’s little swimmers evaporate?

Also, if it was so easy just to turn the magnet off, why have they kept it going all this time? Why not just shut the magnet off? Doesn’t seem to have killed anyone yet, that we know of. I think the reasons why it has not must be very important to Hanso. I also wonder if Henry, Klugh, et al. knew the importance of the magnet (or potential lack thereof).

Yes, yes, yes and yes! All those things. But a magnetic field works the same as an electric field-- in fact, they are the same thing (Electromagnetism). Both forces obey an inverse square law.

So, are we thinking that Jack and Kate were excchanging “meaningful glances”, which is what Sawyer was thinking, or was it an acknowledgement to put “Plan B” into motion? And is Michael aware of and part of “Plan B”? I’m not fully conviced of that, but I’m leaning in that direction.

And I’ll second the person who said a native Spanish speaker would not mistake Portugese for Spanish (unless, perhaps, the native speaker spoke the Galician dialect of Spanish).

I don’t think any of it was coincidence. We’ve had way too much setup at this point for me to believe that this group of people ended up on this island totally by accident.

I think Brother Justin*deliberately led Desmond away from the hatch at that time so that the button would go un-pushed. He knew that Desmond would follow him if he saw the torn suit, and he led him far enough away that he couldn’t get back in time.

I also think he is far less dead than Desmond thought he was.

  • aka Mr. Krabs

My wife and I thought the same thing about “Plan B” last night. Maybe there was a backup plan that Jack told Kate but not Sawyer or Hurley?

Ideally they wouldn’t. But we are talking about a couple of phrases mumbled on a TV show. My wife said she could understand some of what they were saying. Are you saying she’s lying about understanding them, that I’m lying saying that she speaks Spanish or that the Close Captioning system of whoever made that post is lying about them speaking Portugese?

This whole episode was like one big WTF after another. It made 24 seem absolutely plausible.

Most critically, why would Desmond go along with Locke’s little let’s-not-push-the-button experiment? He’s already seen what happens. Bad, bad stuff. He could have mentioned that to Locke.

The sailboat was looking pretty good for something that was wrecked on a reef and then spent three years out in the weather. I’d like to know where all the fiberglass resin to repair it came from.

The HUGE pile of pneumatic tube capsules. Something makes no sense about that. Namely, if there were guys in the hatch continually writing notebooks and stuffing them in tubes, they would have had to have had something like 40,000 tubes to start with.

I was disappointed in Desmond’s backstory – when we first saw him in Jack’s flashback, he was kind an oracular presence. But then it turns out he’s just a dumb schmuck like everyone else on the island, possibly even dumber because he bought the whole story of not going outside for * three years *.

Sayid’s plan could not possibly have been dumber. We know the bad guys have at least one power boat, and there’s nothing more visible on the high seas than a sailboat.

Since when does dynamite generate huge flaming fireballs? A big bang! and some overpressure, yes. But unless they were dumb enough to ignite it next to barrel of kerosene, no big fireball.

I only caught a few episodes this season, but what’s the deal with the invisible map? Couldn’t they, like, you know, write it down on paper?

Yep, both of those guys were out of the loop. Loop, dude! :slight_smile:

Well, you’re original post said “Spanish-speaking” not native speaker. Hell, I could call myself “Spanish-speaking”, so I was thinking that she might not be a native speaker. So, no, I was not saying you were lying. Sorry if that was confusing.

Funny thing is, how many of us thought “Russian”. I think we assumed, before any words were spoken, that the guys were Russian. I know I did. Then I heard a couple “Spanish sounding” words, and immediately said “must be Portugese” to my friends.