Am I alone in thinking that the whole parents-and-kids thing is starting to get a lot more complicated? Among the original set of survivors, we have Claire and the baby, and Michael and WAAAALLT, with both pairs being of apparent significance in the scenario; plus there’s the missing-kids-teddy-bear thing with the tailies. Now Ana Lucia was going to have a kid, but didn’t. And beyond that, as far as I can remember (but remind me if I’ve forgotten anything) nobody else has mentioned having any children who aren’t on the island, and many have explicitly said that they don’t have kids at all. (AL asked Sayid in this ep; his answer: no.) And, of course, all the adults have issues with their own parents. Considering that in the last episode we learned that the Others (or at least one group of them) had detailed information about who was with the tailies and who they’d be going after, do you suppose it’s significant that the people on the plane with children had them with them, and everyone else is childless? Seems like quite a coincidence that none of them would be parents, except for a very small number who happened to be bringing their spawn along.
In my experience a PD will take a pregnant officer off the road as soon as they are informed of the pregnancy. Some officers want to get off the road right away and will let them know immediately. Some want to stay off the desk for as long as they can and tell only when they have to. Guess which category AL would be in. I don’t know for sure what the LAPD policy is.
I’m surprised the “They’re in purgatory” crowd hasn’t chimed in.
Sayid: What’s the point? We’re both already dead. :dubious:
I’m going to go against the grain here. I llike AL. I don’t like her as a person, but I like her as a character. There’s a lot of psychosis in there, always a great thing to have around.
I don’t think the LAPD policy matters. The writers are already playing fast and loose with LAPD policy since you can’t have your parent supervise you.
I also want to know where that really nice LAPD station is. Especially the one with the multilevel parking structure. LAPD precincts aren’t the nicest looking places.
Personally, I think for scenes like that, dialogue would awkward an unneccessary. Unneccessary, because the expressions you’re looking for are there, they’re just non-verbal. Bernard sees that she’s still holding his wedding ring for him. We know that she knew he was alive – and we know from looking at Bernard looking at Rose that he knows that she knew, and is grateful for her strength. They convey this without need of dialogue. Dialogue for a scene like that would be awkward, because the writers face the problem of having to manage a multithreaded construction with a large ensemble of characters, and still have to supply each episode with an underlined ending to give us that feeling of the end of a chapter. Using a* montage* to compress everything together is going to work better for most people, because the problem of editing a series of underlined conclusions together presents huge difficulties. Even shows with very few principals have difficulty pulling off a dialogue-dependant summary conclusion. With ensembles it’s practically unmanageable, unless you can arrange to end the episode with an event that puts nearly everyone in the same place, and affects them all equally.
I don’t think you can point to Lost as the source of this type of ending. I think if you look at any dramatic series with a large cast of of equally-weighted characters, you’ll see often see montage endings as a matter of practical necessity. (Third Watch, for example.)
Actually, I agree with you. She’s not a very likeable person, but she’s an interesting character who will have a significant impact on the group dynamics of the show. I look forward to seeing how she integrates (or fails to integrate) with the rest of the Losties. Also, eager to see how Eko fits in. This show just gets better and better, IMO.
One thing the show makes me wonder about is why Hollywood casts so few Mexican actors to play Mexicans. At least in “Six Feet Under”, they made it a point to tell you that the characters felt a bit left out in their East L.A. community because they were Puerto Rican and not Mexican.
Ana Lucia’s character is presumably Mexican-American, but she certainly doesn’t act that way especially in the way she speaks.
Throw in Niedermyer and Dean Wormer too while you’re at it!
AL has become more dimensional but I still don’t care to look at her. I was so glad when the rest of the Tailies left her.
I nearly lost it with the reunions: Sun and Jin, Michael and Vincent with the very notable absence of WAAAAALLLLLT!; and especially Bernard and Rose. Sob!
Doesn’t anyone ever go down into the hatch to give some Locke some button-pushing relief so he can sleep?
AL with a baby - there’s a pleasant thought.
Hell, the evil bitch bullies HER MOTHER THE POLICE CAPTAIN, can you imagine what she’d do to a child she had complete power over? The guy with the gun did that fetus a favor.
I am starting to suspect that everyone has directly caused the death of…someone at one point or another. Some of them are a given - if only I could figure out Charlie, Claire, and Hurley (unless his Grandfather being killed by the curse counts).
-Joe
When Rose was offering Jack fruit, she was telling him that it was good to see him out of the hatch and back in the fresh air. So I’m guessing that he’s been spending a lot of time there too.
I’m really starting to buy into that theory. If for no other reason than that there’s a statistically unlikely number of murderers and morally troubled individuals on that flight. Now, granted, I’ve never stood up on an airplane flight and said, “OK, everyone who’s ever shot anyone raise your hand.”, but this flight sure has a bunch of them.
But if flight 815 was filled with no one but nuns and boy scouts, it would be be a very boring show.
I know I rarely post on these boards (because I’m scared!) but I’d like to offer my impression of AL:
I’m one of the few people on the planet who like her wholeheartedly, it appears, and I think it’s because I assumed that before she was shot, she was a completely different person. The way she behaves with her psychiatrist, for instance: she convinces him she’s ready to go back to work, right? And she seems pretty sweet, if a little sad, and quiet. But from her mother’s attitude, I sensed a sort of bewilderment (on her mother’s part), and from her partner, a willingness to play the whole thing off like it never happened. So I can see everything kind of fermenting within her and essentially turning her into a much darker person. I don’t think we’ve been given any evidence of her attitude as a potential mother before she was shot, and since she was shot precisely because she was too trusting… I’d say it’s hard for me NOT to sympathize with the woman. She has a tremendous loss, and no one apparently knows about it, and she commits a horrendous act that she clearly cannot really even justify to herself (as evidenced by her half-confession to Sayid).
So yeah. I’m one of… uh, I’m the only person that likes AL. cry
Just my two cents.
I thought for sure that the Ana Lucia stand off was going to end when she was hit in the back of the head with a golf ball.
I kind of lost a little respect for ole Mr. Echo there. Doesn’t want to help Jack but as soon as the guns are drawn, he’s just dying to get involved. That whole thing could’ve been avoided if he’d just taken Jack in the first place. That may be poor writing though.
Even I’m sick of Ana Lucia now. Can we please get some form of redeeming quality for her soon? All she looks like now is a bossy boots with a gun fetish. I really didn’t like her demands for the ammo, etc. How does she deserve a share of the supplies?
Kate can golf too? :rolleyes: She’d better have a kick ass backstory, cause her little “being able to do everything” schtick is wearing thin.
You and me both, though I was waiting for Ethan to snap their necks. That may make me a worse person.
If she ends up being called Starbuck… then we’ll know.
Battlestar Galactica has really surprised me in its overall quality.
I’m still enjoying Lost enough to cope with it’s inherent frustrations, although Desmond going awol after the entire first season build up is flat out annoying. Did anyone notice the death episode was written by one of the better writers from Deadwood, who actually remembered to drop in character points otherwise forgotten since last year?
Mistereko and Locke definitely have me intrigued. Veronica Mars is the better show though. This week was patchy but last week was jaw droppingly good.
You know, the thing I really noticed about this ep was the lifestyle difference between the two groups of survivors. After 45 (or so) days the front end survivors are playing golf, doing chores, playing the guitar, hanging out. No real stress. They’ve figured out how to eat, be safe, even avoid the various weird stuff the island has thrown at them. Contrast that with the Tailies. They still haven’t really figured out how to get food from the sea. Although they have a place that looks like it should be safe to live in, they’re still living each day very hand-to-mouth, frightened of everything. To me, the difference has to be because of the leadership. Sure, they’ve been more plagued by the “others”, but I haven’t seen as much interference from boars, polar bears and mysterious fogs. So call it even. They had fewer survivors, which makes from a small pool of expertise to draw from, but between AL and Mistereko, they should’ve been able to protect the group, one would think. Face it - the front end group has Jack and Locke. Kate is talented, but she doesn’t match Locke, IMHO. Sayid’s a good tech guy, and good for the occasional torture, but doesn’t seem to have the hunting skills Locke does.
As for this ep, for me it was the best this season. I still don’t like AL. I’m sorry, but losing your baby doesn’t justify murder, especially for a cop. I do se her as the type not to tell anyone she was pregnant until she had to, because she wouldn’t want to be taken off the street. I wonder if if she’s given up on the idea of goingit on her own. It looks like she was following Sayid. I was so pleased to see Bernard and Rose finally back together. Kate and Sawyer…I can’t see how she could prefer him to Jack, but to each his own. Anybody else want to…comfort…Sayid? That man has beautiful eyes. I can’t decide who’s more attractive, Sayid or Jin.
When is the next new ep?
StG
Next week. No spoiler because it was in the preview, it’s supposed to be all about Kate.
At least the police department isn’t as full of familial relationships as CTU typically is…
I wonder if the tailies are all going to have mommie issues in the same way the midies have daddy issues. Not much interraction between Locke and Eko, but some foreshadowing of things to come. How about this one: Eko is Black Locke, or perhaps Black Rock!!
Anyway, I liked this episode except that no one was on AL’s side and they had to be pretty damn close to the camp so I don’t see why they didn’t just overpower her and let Sayid free.
The Lostaways, yes, have a more comfortable life – but don’t forget, they also ended up with the luggage from the plane, so such things as clothing and golf clubs, and let’s not forget Locke’s suitcase o’ knives, and also, of course, (limited) medical supplies for their real live doctor. And now, of course, they also have the hatch stuff. Also, there were more than twice as many of them, so it would make them a more difficult target to steal people from. The differences have meant that they could begin living a more civilized life than the Tailaways quickly. Also, they may have ended up physically much farther away from the people-stealing Others. It does seem to be quite a big island.