What I don’t get, though, is the logic of the affected range… seems like either anywhere in “view” of the dome is affected or anywhere directly between (i.e., blocking line-of-sight) two domes. It can’t be the latter, because if it was, they could have walked under. It can’t be the former, either, though, because it would have zapped them where they were standing the whole time. So I don’t get how they are supposed to work. Logically, that is.
Augh, missed the window.
Anyway, good call on the birds never leaving the island. And I forgot one of my favorite bits: After Desmond scares away the birds, Jin lurches towards him saying what sounds like Korean for “What the fuck you doin’, man? What the fuck you doin’?”
My observations on this episode…
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Claire’s wig was horrible. And no, I don’t have an HDTV.
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Desmond wanting Charlie to come hunting might have been yet another death that he wanted Charlie to avoid that had nothing to do with the “killed by the rocks” death he mentioned to Claire.
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It’s entirely possible that Mikail was killed by the fence pretty much instantly, it just took him a few seconds to drop.
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The antennas may have looked hemispherical, but doesn’t mean that their effect was a hemisphere. As a matter of fact, if their area of effect was like that, the only safe place near the fence you could be would be directly behind an antenna - but that would put you in the radius of another antenna…
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The CGI on the rest of the pylons was terrible, as was that of Claire’s flock that seemed to be all over the place.
However, I thought it was the best episode in a long time. Characters actually DID stuff, and it was smart stuff. “Why not push him through the fence?” They did. “Why not go over?” They did. “Why not do your best to tug a log through the fence so you can set up a quick getaway?” Well, two out of three is better than the usual 0 out of 10.
And Charlie just TOLD Claire about the whole marked for death thing! Not “you wouldn’t understand” or “it’s complicated”. Holy hell, maybe the retardo virus is wearing off!
I got a hell of a laugh out of seeing with whom Jack was tossing the football around.
Right now, though, Locke has gone from one of my favorites to a step above Michael in my book of “please just kill him already” characters.
-Joe
Good episode.
I agree that Claire looked great with darker hair. She has such pale skin that dark hair is a great contrast and makes her eyes stand out.
I wondered why they just didn’t throw a rock through the security system to see if it was electrified. My first thought was to dig a tunnel underneath the security system. Of course climbing over it was a lot easier.
I’m kind of sorry to see the Russian dude die. He intrigued me.
I realized this episode that I really like Desmond. Not as much as Jack the Traitor, but he’s a nice foil for the wishy-washy beach dwellers.
Jack being Claire’s father wasn’t a big surprise to me. It’s about time a connection between two of the survivors was revealed.
I wonder what happened to Charlie that now he’s rational and normal. Was it ever explained what was going on with him last season that made him freak out?
Who/what is CFL? (Besides the Canadian Football League)
Crazy French Lady–Danielle.
Ah. See, if you would’ve said CFLWSHD I would’ve known right off the bat.
Yes, but it’s fitting, because Charlie is a dick who’d like to play the superficial role of a nice and decent guy, while Claire seems kind and innocent but then quickly jumps to emotional manipulation when she wants to control a situation. They’re a good fit for each other.
Claire, though, seems less… sociopathic about it. She seems like a fairly typical person who can overreact emotionally and kind of automatically respond on a base emotional level which ends up being manipulative, whereas Charlie genuinely doesn’t seem to care about who he hurts in his quest to play the role of the nice guy.
I’ve made a few “Charlie is a dick” posts in various Lost threads. Like this one from a while back.
Well, a wall is easy to understand and overcome. However, there’s another element at play.
When you push a guy past some posts in the ground, and some sort of mysterious force turns his brain into jelly from the inside, if you’re a reasonable person you tend to have a reaction along the lines of:
“WHAT THE FUCK??? Okay… went past posts… brain… fried… mysterious island… mysterious town…surrounded by brain frying posts… okay… fuck this, I’m going back to the beach. Maybe I could play some ping pong, or golf, or even find a scooby doo van to take a drive in. Whatever. I’m out of here.”
A wall won’t do that for you.
Edit: Forgot to comment, best line of the show, something along the lines of:
“That map might not be to scale, it might not be accurate”
“Well, yes, John, it may not be as infallible as your magic stick…”
As to the argument that the 1920’s Style Force Field did not kill EPG immediately, and, thus, that the Losties could have run through it: If I recall correctly, EPG was thrown back after the force field was done with him. It appeared to be exerting physical control over him. He may have been seized in it while he was thanking all the little people who made it possible for him to be there.
Not a very active thread, considering.
Did the “Lost” creators blow their fans’ goodwill by producing too many episodes that did nothing but spin their tires?
-Joe
I was hoping the birds would fly down & get fried like EPG.
I have a theory. Could it be that the same accident that got Locke’s legs also involved Jack’s wife?. (DISCLAIMER) I don’t know enough about this series to justify it - just something I thought of last night.
Is this plausible?
I doubt it… Jack’s wife’s accident was involved with Shannon’s dad… seems unlikely, even by Lost standards, that Locke would be there too.
I’m a little surprized too. I get a lot of entertainment from these “Lost” threads. Not much action this time. Maybe everyone is busy with the NCAA games.
I read somewhere that viewership is down post-hiatus. In spite of the fact that in my opinion the post-hiatus episodes have been an order of magnitude better. These two things lead me to the conclusion that “Lost” lost a lot of fans.
Well, sure, but pre-hiatus they managed to annoy a lot of people. Therefore, they didn’t return after. I know I was only giving them a couple episodes before I quit. But they did well.
-Joe
Yes.
No, it’s not possible within the established timeline. The accident that killed Shannon’s father (and caused a spinal injury in the woman who became Jack’s wife) happened two or three years before Oceanic 815 crashed.
But we know Locke had been in a wheelchair for four years when the plane crashed.
Merijeek:
Am I the only one who didn’t feel like the first six epsiodes of the season were “tire-spinning”? Here are some plot advancements that happened in the first six epsiodes:
- Sawyer and Kate met Alex, which sets up Danielle’s involvement in the current “better” episodes.
- With all the “different groups of Others” theories that floated around, it pretty much clarified that the Others we already encountered pre-Season 3 (Ethan, Goodwin, Tom, “Henry Gale”) all belong to the same group. We additionally confirm that the polar bears came from the Others’ cages, and so did the shark.
- We learned that the Others felt need to recruit a fertility specialist.
- We learned that there is considerable dissent amongst the others regarding chain of command, something that no doubt will play an important part in the Losties’ dealings with them
- Jack played the Others and now has some degree of influence amongst them.
- Sun killed one of the Others, directly leading to the events that got Juliet on their naughty list. Again, something we can expect to have an effect on the Losties’ dealings with the Others
- Locke regained his sense of faith in the island
- Eko was killed by the monster, and more clues to the monster’s abilities have been revealed
And that’s just off the top of my head. With the exception of the Desmond episode, pretty much all the episodes that followed the hiatus have built on the developments above.
I, for one, never felt like they were “going nowhere.”
I disagree. If they raise more questions than they move forward on answers, I see it as going nowhere.
The fact of the matter is that it is much easier to come up with a way trippy mystery than it is to come up with an explanation that isn’t crap.
I can understand how people get frustrated with all sorts of plots being layed out only to have them dropped for no good reason except that the writers have written themselves into a corner.
And to me, that seemed to happen a lot in Season Two and the opening of three. Weren’t we promised some Earth-shattering revelations for the last episode before hiatus? And there was pretty much nothing.
People are drawn to mysteries because they want to figure them out. But I think people begin to resent it when mysteries they’ve speculated on, discussed, and put some real thought into get dropped because the writers got a little too clever with themselves.
-Joe
One reason for discontent among fans is promotional overpromising like this. They try to get us excited about each episode – as is their job – but sometimes go too far. I’m thinking specifically of the episode where the promos stated that “three” important questions would be answered.
After the episode, people had trouble coming with two questions, whether important or unimportant, that were answered. (Wish I could remember which episode this was… Damned laziness prevents me from figuring it out.)
I do tend to be more satisfied, I think, when I don’t have high expectations going into the episode. (For instance, I don’t have particularly high expectations for nex week’s. It should be interesting to find out what caused Locke’s injury, but it hasn’t been keeping me up at night. So if that’s the big fact they’re trumpeting, I’m thinking I’ll learn little about what I really care about.)