[QUOTE=The Chao Goes Mu]
Even though Hurley speaks Spanish and not Portuguese, how could he not know that “thank you” was not what Naomi said?
They are similar enough languages to be able to pick up bits and pieces of meaning.
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No, she was speaking several different languages, from Italian to Chinese. What she said to Mikhail was Portugese.
PS (not directed at anyone in particular) I don’t know why you guys who don’t understand what happened between X and Y don’t just read the summaries on lostpedia. It’s linked on the first page.
[QUOTE=brianmelendez]
I thought that what Desmond actually said was, You’ve killed more of them than they have killed of you, referring specifically to Charlie. Others killed by Charlie: 1 (Ethan). Charlies killed by Others: 0.
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Well, they started it! The score would have been different if Jack hadn’t been able to beat some life into Charlie after his hanging.
Re: Jack and Jin brothers? That would be hot … er, I mean daddy Shepherd sure got around.
Where’s the love for Mr. Kwon in this thread? I just love this character, especially since he’s in such contrast to pretty much everyone else in the story. They’ve all got secrets, they’ve all got agendas. Mr. Kwon is a “simple pleasant” fisherman, but he raised a child who might not even have been his…
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[QUOTE=DVsickgirlDV]
Does anyone know what Naomi said when she was speaking Chinese?
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“I work… in the Nigerian embassy… We have… thirty-seven million dollars…”
I really have to wonder if the producers actually mean for us to go to the trouble of finding out what this character says in 5 different languages. Why bury fairly important details in random languages that only a small percentage of viewers will get? “I’m not alone” seems significant, as well as the fact that Mikhael lied about it… Are we or are we not supposed to know that at this point?
Unless it’s all part of the trend to make obsessed internet Lost geeks even more obsessed. I guess it’s working
Heh, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. I’m a Lost geek myself. I just find it odd that they’d embed fairly relevant stuff in another language, unless they didn’t find it so important. Or it’s just another constructed onion layer to draw out our inner sleuths and get us that much more emotionally involved with the show.
I don’t mind stuff like this too much. My experience with The Lost Experience game this summer is that you won’t have to do any of your own research or wait too long until the answer to your question is readily available on the Internet (I tried to play the summer Web game. After quickly being fed up with it, I just started looking at web-game-centric blogs from time to time and ultimately watching the final “revealing” video on YouTube).
My first thought, after “clearly, she did not just say ‘thank you’” was “I will have to look online tomorrow to see what she really did say.”
Seems to me that Lost is an “open source” program. Or at least discussions about it are. There are millions of people dissecting, archiving and explaining the show all over the place - from the major entertainment publications to Lostpedia to dude-with-a-blog. You don’t have to go to abc.com to get your info and you don’t have to be in the dark about anything. In fact, I would never go to abc.com to get my info on Lost - I don’t trust it.
I think that is what makes the show unique and fun. Seems like the writers assume that if something is confusing that’s ok - it’ll be explained by The Masses the next day. They can put in a quick reference in a photo or a background that might be a huge influence on the plot, because they know someone(s) will archive it and discuss it. I think this helps differentiate Lost from just your run-of-the-mill primetime soap opera. I think it makes it more fun, too.
Somewhat related - I just read an article in Wired about how set dressers have to ramp things up now that shows are broadcast in HD and go to HD DVD. The set dressers on the show 30 Rock make every item in the background “real” (such as computer desktops, photographs on the walls, magazine articles, etc) because not only is it much more clearly visible on a 50" HD screen, but also people will and do pause the show to read and look at things in the background.
[QUOTE=Windwalker]
I really have to wonder if the producers actually mean for us to go to the trouble of finding out what this character says in 5 different languages. Why bury fairly important details in random languages that only a small percentage of viewers will get? “I’m not alone” seems significant, as well as the fact that Mikhael lied about it… Are we or are we not supposed to know that at this point?
Unless it’s all part of the trend to make obsessed internet Lost geeks even more obsessed. I guess it’s working
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I think they try to make the show work on both levels. It should be casually fascinating while still having aspects that you have to be crazy or know someone who is to think about. Consider the blast door map that was such a hit with the uberfan community, but was on screen maybe 10 seconds, and not really that consequential to the main plotline (except for the follow-up episode where Locke finds the question mark). People went through and dissected the thing and found, well, not a whole lot. Maybe 1 or 2 clues, and the fact that there were several other hatches on the island, which you found out if you just watched the next episode.
For the less intense viewer, they generally have that ‘previously on lost’ bit at the beginning.
Somewhat related - I just read an article in Wired about how set dressers have to ramp things up now that shows are broadcast in HD and go to HD DVD. The set dressers on the show 30 Rock make every item in the background “real” (such as computer desktops, photographs on the walls, magazine articles, etc) because not only is it much more clearly visible on a 50" HD screen, but also people will and do pause the show to read and look at things in the background.
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That’s really cool. Seems to me there’s a market for a mystery-type show that uses background clues for viewers to try and figure things out. Lost is already doing that, sort of, but it’s not really going far into it - most of the “clues” have turned out to be much less important than we all thought. They’re really just background dressing and we’re reading too much into it all. But if there’s a decent number of viewers who are into the game, and who enjoy putting together the puzzles, a show like that could be a hit. I’d watch it, anyway.
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But if there’s a decent number of viewers who are into the game, and who enjoy putting together the puzzles, a show like that could be a hit. I’d watch it, anyway.
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That sounds like it may be the start of a new gimmick trend. TV turned viewer-detective story! That would turn on its head the idea of passive entertainment. The idea of couch potatoes going frame-by-frame to figure out where Mittelos Labs is located just makes me smile. Of course, most will forgo this little game, but I do think it would be really ballsy to put a MAJOR plot revelation among the background clues.
Or, a new show could emerge that is dependent on whether or not viewers solve the puzzle. They could pre-shoot multiple paths for the story to follow, and air the version of the episode that corresponds to how well the viewers did. Viewers could in turn be motivated by offering a reward to the first one who figures out certain things. The first few winners would probably be interviewed by the media as well, since this would be a novelty at first, and this would give the show even more free advertising.
There have been interactive solve-the-mystery type programs before, but they predated the massive rise of web interconnectedness, so they didn’t really work very well. I agree the time is ripe for a new round of experimentation.
[QUOTE=SenorBeef]
If the sample is related to pregnancy, they didn’t have much time between the possible impregnation and the escape.
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Well, they did say they’re going to collect samples from “every” woman, without any suggestion that they’re discriminating between those who are getting laid and those who aren’t. Given that, it seems like they ought to have been interested in Kate even before Sawyer liberated her ass in the bear cage.
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Well, they did say they’re going to collect samples from “every” woman, without any suggestion that they’re discriminating between those who are getting laid and those who aren’t.
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When? I’m not saying it didn’t happen; I’m genuinely wondering when I missed that.