Nope, couldn’t disagree more. Naomi claimed to be working for Penny to find Desmond, and had the photograph with her as evidence. This causes Desmond (and the rest) to trust her and try to signal the boat for rescue.
The later revelation from the dying Charlie that she was lying and it’s “Not Penny’s boat” causes all kinds of uproar (among the characters and the audience as well, I think), leading to the split of the Losties into Jack’s group and Locke’s group. (I expect this will evolve into a pretty important plot point in upcoming episodes).
Do you really think that could have been done by dropping the phone from the 'copter?
When Naomi first landed on the island, she claimed to have been part of a rescue group hired by Penny, specifically looking for Desmond. I think she may have also claimed that Penny was on the ship (although I may be misremembering this). But she definitely said she’d been hired by Penelope Widmore. So it was clear that she was lying about that, when Penny told Charlie “Who’s Naomi? What boat?”
Locke found Hurley just before a commercial break, and when we came back from the commercial, it was clear to me that they’d been talking for a bit – we just didn’t see the time elapsed between Hurley-lying-on-back-looking-up-at-Locke and the two of them sitting there discussing.
So I’d say Hurley had just filled him in already (just like apparently Desmond did to Hurley and the others on the beach, when we didn’t specifically see it) – on the Charlie-in-the-underwater-station story.
However, the one that bugs me is the same as others have expressed – the dividing up in to groups without anybody filling Jack in on the “not Penny’s boat” message from Charlie. THAT commercial break came right after Jack punched Locke, and then when we came back, they were still scuffling – I’m sure there were no explanations during the commercial break. And then in that scene, nobody ever told Jack “Charlie found something out – it’s not Penny’s boat!” before Hurley’s little speech (“I’m going to listen to my friend. I’m going to listen to Charlie.”)
Me too. Count me as chiming in with another “Hear hear!”
Speaking of excellent acting – Ben had the best lines and deliveries again in this episode. And I loved the look on Rousseau’s face, when she turned and looked at him incredulously after he asked, “Can you do me a favor?” Priceless.
Hmmm. You make an excellent point. Yes, they could’ve contacted the boat and triggered the rescue just by finding the phone (or setting a signal fire, for that matter)…but there was no other way to start the Not Penny’s Boat conflict, without some timely misinformation from Naomi. I retract my point, and bow to your superior analytical powers.
In addition to nobody ever asking any questions, the Losties almost never voluntarily share any information with each other that would be helpful to the group. In fact they seem to go out of their way to be mysterious with each other about damn near everything.
Aha! She was in the series pilot of “Angel.” She played Tina, a waitress who Angel tried to save, in vain, from the evil vampire, Russell. I just watched it again a few days ago. Damn writer’s strike.
After browsing idmb, it appears that Josh Holloway (Sawyer on “Lost”) was in that episode as well. He played “good looking guy.” LOL.
One bit that amused me at the end. Anybody else notice how confused Jack looked when the boat dude dropped from the chopper and said, “Are you Jack?”
Jack’s look seemed to indicate either:
Jack knew him from somewhere, and was surprised to see him…
or Jack is a moron, because he’s been the one trying to get the boat dudes to come to the island, and now one of them just showed up, so what are you looking so surprised about, Jack!!!
I took it as a sort of, “Oh shit! They’re really here now and I’m an unarmed dumbass with no plan and no certainty that they’re not going to kill and eat me” sort of deer in headlights look.
Well, it’s dark out and everyone’s running around the island and this dude drops down practically on top of Jack. It’s always amused me how things on this island seem miles apart except when the plot requires the island to be about the size of a football field.
At the begining durring the car chase when the reporter heard it was a Camero, did I hear her whisper “Oh no”? I wasn’t sure if I heard it or not, reached for the dvd remote and remembered I didn’t have that luxury any more(first time watching "fresh"episodes). I supose she just might have recognized Hurley, or his car rather, from doing a news report, but it definetly sounded like she IDed him quick.
Oh, that makes sense. I assumed that they’d use their helicopter to ferry people (obviously a freighter isn’t going to park at the beach, but they might have smaller boats aboard) but that might’ve been a bad assumption on my part.
Amusingly enough, jaderabbit and I just started watching Angel on DVD a few weeks ago, and during the prologue for the pilot episode, we turned to each other and said, “Hey, isn’t that…er, you know, Sawyer?”
Sawyer-vampire just gets staked a few minutes later anyway.
I believe that was Jack. Hurley has had that car for a while (it was in the Tricia Tanaka is Dead episode) and it’s a rare car, so it wouldn’t be unreasonable for Jack to know it and put two and two together.
It’s marketed as a mystery. I love the fact that it has great back stories, character development, and is well scripted/acted, but my investment in that mythology is based on the puzzle solving/mystery hook. I understand why they some times have to take a surreptitious route in order to introduce new facts/plot development, and can forgive the occasional slow episode because of that. But it’s terrible story telling to build the momentum to fever pitch and then, after 8 months, do absolutely nothing to resolve that tension. Give me something, anything, to think about. Hell, I would even take more build up or a false release.
I keep watching because when they have their act together they put out some of the more compelling fiction around and they’ve promised that the series will end with a final, explosive episode. The logical part of me knows that since I’ve pretty much exclaimed, “Holy Shit” after every season finale, they’ll come through in the end. But everytime they over hype an episode like this, and get my hopes up for nothing, I become more cynical that they will actually tie up all the loose ends they’ve dangled before us.
Nah - that guy is a regular cast member on The Wire. He does not have an accent. He just has this very. deliberate. speech. pattern. that makes it sound like he’s trying to pound nails with his words.
