No, Desmond thinks he saw Claire and baby getting onto a helicopter and off the Island. If you remember, Desmond also thought he saw Penny parachuting onto the Island, but that turned out to be someone else.
Desmond’s future visions aren’t necessarily clear. He may have seen a woman climbing onto a helicopter with a baby and just assumed that it was Claire when it was really Kate. Or, Claire and baby do get on the helicopter but get off again, or something happens to her en-route or something else. There are plenty of ways that Desmonds vision could be “correct” and still not result in Claire getting off the Island alive.
I agree that Desmond’s visions aren’t always going to be clear, but I don’t remember that he had a vision of Penny parachuting onto the Island. When was that? I know he was hoping it was Penny, but I don’t remember a vision.
One thing that keeps bothering me about the “what happens to Claire” issue. Charlie sacrificed himself because he thought it meant Claire and Aaron would be rescued. He didn’t have to die but he was convinced it was the only way to save them. If they have Claire die then it makes Charlie’s death even stupider.
I wonder if Kate is convinced she is not pregnant because she wasn’t able to get pregnant in the past for some reason and she doesn’t realize that the island may have healed her problem? Unless she was originally a man and doesn’t have the right internal organs to have them healed. Hmm … that would be an interesting twist.
He did envision that it was her, I’m pretty sure. They didn’t show it, but he said he saw it.
BUT, he destroyed his vision when he broke “the rule” and saved Chahlie from the trap arrow instead of letting him die (if I recall the particular instance right.)
I think Kate is convinced she’s not pregnant because she’s having her period (which also explains her reluctance to get too intimate with Sawyer). It was sort of a “No, really wink wink, I’m definitely not pregnant right now.”
It’s also possible that she got her hands on a pregnancy test at some point. It’s also possible that she just wanted Sawyer to believe that she’s sure, but really isn’t.
Perhaps I was being too gentle when I said: “It’s also possible that she just wanted Sawyer to believe that she’s sure, but really isn’t.” What I meant to say was “maybe she’s just conning him.”
I’m not convinced that the Aaron in the flashforward is her own child, though. So whether she knows it or not, I’m going with “not pregnant.”
Regarding whether Kate’s Aaron is the same child as Claire’s Aaron:
We are obviously supposed to think he is. If he isn’t then it is an unneccesarily devious and egregrious mindfuck. It would be like the writers saying “Ha ha, we fooled you assholes! That’s what you get for trying to find any constant meaning or definite information in anything said or shown on Lost! We’ve got you so confused that you’ll never figure out whether we answered any mysteries or not!”
If it turns out not to be the same child–that’s when I stop watching the show. Even if it’s not revealed until the second-to-last episode that will be the last episode I will see.
But I don’t think that’s the case. I think the writers know better to use such a cheap trick. They don’t want to piss-off the audience.
I agree with this; when Lost (or any well-written drama) want to mislead the audience, my experience has been they do it fairly–I may not see it coming, but I don’t usually find the outcome inexplicable.
I’d love to hear some examples–if you’re still around. IMO most of the legitimate story quibbles have been over minutiae. For as complex a story as has been created (~20 characters morking in three or four different plotlines simultaneously), they’ve really kept most of it hanging together while preserving the intrigue of the mystery. There are plenty of frustrating moments now–since we don’t know the whole story–but no lazy “Law & Order twists” that I’ve seen.
Kinda like they did with Alex. We couldn’t know for sure that the teenage Alex was CFL’s Alex, but it turned out she was.
Any thoughts on why Kate was so adamant that her mother not have any interaction with Aaron? I know Kate was molested by her father, but it’s not like that is likely to happen to Aaron.
Maybe she’s still mad that mom ratted her out to the cops.
It seems that both Jack and Locke are turning into little tinpot dictators. Jack is way too quick to kill people (or at least, to threaten to kill people), while Locke has turned into a sadistic jerk. I get the distinct impression that he enjoys keeping people prisoner, rather than thinking of it as a necessary evil, like most people would.
As for Claire, I suspect that she’ll leave the island, but die on the boat. Charlie’s death is not for nothing, however, because Aaron is still alive, and at least a few other people get rescued because of his efforts.
Lastly, am I the only person who’s wondering what happens to all the nameless “extra” survivors? There’s a few dozen of them, by my count. I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that those gas masks that were dropped from the helicopter might be a clue as to what happens to those guys.
Kate never said it was Jack’s baby, just that until he was ready to deal with the issue of the kid, they couldn’t renew their relationship. Jack and the baby are related because Claire and Jack are half-siblings. That makes Aaron his nephew.
Your quote made me realize another reason why it must be the same Aaron.
Locke knew that there was something wrong with with the boat-people. Future-Jack realizes that they made a mistake leaving the Island and wants to go ‘back’ (which could be taken more than one way). I seem to recall that Ghost-Charlie told something of the same sort to Hurley.
The implication is that it wasn’t supposed to happen this way. Aaron being raised by another is one more thing that is ‘wrong’ with the future of the flash-forwards. It’s something that has to be somehow rectified by going ‘back’.
