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“Is it important to note that chickens can make eggs? (get pregnant)” - this was posted by a poster named “Flightless Bird” who should know that chickens can produce eggs without being pregnant - similarly so can women.
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Now I’m wondering if the whole chicken and eggs thing is foreshadowing - the egg being Aaron, that Locke serves to Ben, which would make the chicken Claire, killed by Locke…
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I think someone pulled that out of their ass. 8 pages of Google search and I found nothing except Lost refrences and a kids film about the easter Bunny.
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Well, someone may have pulled it out of their ass but it was referenced on that Lostpedia page along with the bunny movie. I also saw references on other sites but they may have gotten the same info from the Lostpedia site.
So I did a little extra googling and found an other non-Lost related reference.
http://www.twoeggfla.com/
and another reference to Two-Egg;
although it is hard to find other mentions of “Egg-Town” that aren’t Lost related, there are plenty of references to bartering in the Depression and using eggs for barter. These references predate Lost.
Nice house Kate is living in. Who’s paying for it? Oceanic?
Babies need to get off the island. Where’s Sun & Jin’s kid?
I just rewatched the episode last night, and caught something I missed the first time around: the end credits do not mention Aaron. They do have a credit for “Two Year Old Boy”. Hmmm. I guess this clarifies the timeline…and muddies up the kid’s identity.
And the judge’s name was quite peculiar, but I don’t get an anagram out of it.
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So, is there any especially compelling reason to think that this flashback happened shortly after the crash? With how the US legal system works, especially involving a famous celebrity like one of the Oceanic Six, a long protracted multi-year pretrial wait would be perfectly predictable and expected. How long has R. Kelly been awaiting trial afterall?
Let’s suppose that Jack’s bearded meltdown happened long before this. And that something Kate did, probably involving her “son”, is what drove him past the breaking point to drug abuse. And then it’s post-meltdown in-recovery Jack that lies on the stand for Kate and isn’t yet prepared to see her “son”. Doesn’t that make more sense than Jack not wanting to see the baay-beeee?
I think that the three most important clues in the episode were the $3.2 million extortion figure, Faraday not being able to remember (or foresee) the three card monty and the 4-years Kate’s mom has been terminal before the trial.
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If you didn’t read the interview that was linked earlier or don’t want to then I’ll spoil it.
In the interview they made it clear that the beard scene from last seasons finale was as far ahead as any they have shown. All of the flash forwards are leading up to showing why Jack winds up a suicidal alcoholic. The trial happen well before that.
One thing that I am waiting to see is who was in the coffin at the funeral in last season’s finale. If it was one of those on the island then I would have to assume that it was someone who left the island in a way that kept them from being one of the Oceanic 6. Otherwise I doubt the funeral would be ignored if they had become such celebrities after the rescue. Unless the flash forward in that episode was so far ahead that they have gone from celebrities to has beens.
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Unless the flash forward in that episode was so far ahead that they have gone from celebrities to has beens.
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In the last season finale, when Jack is trying to get his drugs from a pharmacy with an invalid prescription, someone in line behind him says something like “Don’t you know who this is? He’s a hero!” The assumption at the time was that the person was talking about how Jack had just rescued the woman in the car crash, but the implication now (confirmed by that annoying pop-up rerun) is that he is considered a hero by being part of the Oceanic 6. So, at least some people still know who the 6 are.
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In the last season finale, when Jack is trying to get his drugs from a pharmacy with an invalid prescription, someone in line behind him says something like “Don’t you know who this is? He’s a hero!” The assumption at the time was that the person was talking about how Jack had just rescued the woman in the car crash, but the implication now (confirmed by that annoying pop-up rerun) is that he is considered a hero by being part of the Oceanic 6. So, at least some people still know who the 6 are.
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Good call. But even still if the person in the coffin was one of the Oceanic 6 then you would expect a few lookyloos at the funeral even for a has been. So either the dead guy wasn’t officially part of the Oceanic 6 or they were just using poetic license to show that he died and lived alone.
In court, Jack said that 8 people survived the crash. There are the “Oceanic 6”. Who are the other 2? (obviously more survived the crash, but I am talking about the cover story)
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In court, Jack said that 8 people survived the crash. There are the “Oceanic 6”. Who are the other 2? (obviously more survived the crash, but I am talking about the cover story)
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Michael and Walt, maybe? That way if they ever show up, they don’t have to worry that people will find out that more than six people survived the crash (though they would need to prevent Michael and Walt from telling their story to the press until they’d been brought on board with the cover story.)
I just re-watched it, and I noticed a couple things:
Miles makes a point of telling Ben that Ben knows who he works for, and that he, Miles, is the one who found him. I wonder if there is a reward for whoever in the team is the one to find Ben. Maybe a $3.2M reward?
It didn’t sink in when I first watched this episode that Kate told Jack she knew why he didn’t want to see the baby, and until he got over that, they couldn’t have a relationship. That kinda makes the idea more plausible that Aaron is not Claire’s Aaron, but Kate’s baby with Sawyer.
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That kinda makes the idea more plausible that Aaron is not Claire’s Aaron, but Kate’s baby with Sawyer.
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IMO that is not even a possibility. The big reveal is that Aaron is now Kate’s baby and something happened to Claire. Nothing else makes sense.
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I’m wondering if maybe Sawyer doesn’t make it back as part of the Six. The flashforwards tonight were just soon after they were “rescued”; Kate invited Jack back to her place and had someone else* watching Aaron. She seemed pretty much on her own, if Sawyer had been back I don’t think they would have been able to keep him hidden at this point. Like he said, Freckles always returns.
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I’m starting to think that maybe Sawyer leaves the island, but isn’t one of the Oceanic 6.
Consider this: we know from the flash-forwards that Ben leaves the island, and is apparently killing everyone who he thinks is a threat to the island. In the flash-forwards, Sayid is Ben’s assassin, but wouldn’t Sawyer be the obvious first choice? Everyone knows that Sawyer is willing to kill, and the file that the Others gave Locke specifically linked Sawyer to the murder of that guy in Australia.
I’m betting that Ben figures out that Sawyer really would like to leave the island, but he knows that the moment anyone starts examining his past, he’ll be sitting in a jail cell, awaiting extradition to Australia. We know that Ben has a bunch of fake IDs, so he could probably offer to create a new identity for Sawyer, and give him a chance at a new life, in exchange for Sawyer doing his dirty work to help protect the island. (Ben’s enemies are probably former Dharma people, or at least those who supported the project. Penny’s father is definitely one of these guys.)
My theory is that Sawyer goes along with this plan, but in truth he isn’t willing to be anyone’s hired gun. He outwits Ben and creates a new ID for himself behind Ben’s back, and then disappears. At this point, Ben recruits Sayid to be his new killer. (I have no ideas as to how Ben ever gets his hooks into Sayid, however.) If events unfolded like this, then Ben might want to kidnap Kate and/or Aaron in order to force Sawyer to resurface. This would be where Sayid either redeems himself (by helping Kate to escape) or puts himself totally beyond redemption (by doing something really bad to Kate, maybe for the specific purpose of proving that he won’t help her to escape.) Either way, Ben is going to take Aaron back to the island, so one of the Others can have a child to raise. Kate will, of course, then want to go back to the island to rescue “her” child.
Other thoughts:
I’m wondering if the last two Oceanic 6 might be Sun and Jin. (This assumes that Aaron doesn’t count as one of the six.) I can see it now: Sun and Jin leave, and start planning for their life as a family. Sun thinks that because she is off the island, it is safe for her to have her baby, so she never says anything to Jin about the “pregnancy curse.” Unfortunately, she isn’t safe. (Remember what Juliet said to Ben in that one flashback, about how the problem begins at conception.) Sun dies before giving birth, leaving Jin alone. Jin, who never learned about Sun’s problem, is left to conclude that they were supposed to stay on the island.
What happens to Juliet and Desmond? Neither were on the Oceanic flight. Either they die, or they leave secretly, in much the same way I theorize that Sawyer will. Desmond might get help from Penny, but I suspect that Juliet will die. In the present, things seem to be heating up between her and Jack, and Jack definitely doesn’t have a woman in his life after he gets rescued.
I think that when Locke saw Walt, it really was Walt. Somehow, Michael and Walt became seperated again. I’m sure that Michael is Ben’s “man on the boat.” As to whether Michael returns to the USA, gets stranded on the island, or is killed, I can’t say. If he ended up being rescued without Walt, he’d want to get back to the island, bad.
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IMO that is not even a possibility. The big reveal is that Aaron is now Kate’s baby and something happened to Claire. Nothing else makes sense.
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But that’s why it makes sense! Don’t forget what show we’re watching here…
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I’m sure that Michael is Ben’s “man on the boat.”
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In keeping with the man in the boat metaphor, does that mean Michael is Ben’s pleasure button?
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As for Kate’s new baby Aaron… Is it possible that Claire and Aaron died, maybe in Kate’s arms, and then she names the baby she conceived with Sawyer after Aaron, to honor them?
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As for Kate’s new baby Aaron… Is it possible that Claire and Aaron died, maybe in Kate’s arms, and then she names the baby she conceived with Sawyer after Aaron, to honor them?
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It’s possible, although we have been led to expect that Claire and the baby both get off the island. From “Greatest Hits” last season:
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It’s possible, although we have been led to expect that Claire and the baby both get off the island. From “Greatest Hits” last season:
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Of course, making it to the freighter is off the island, if you want to look at it in the highly technical way to which we’ve become accustomed. So maybe they get to the freighter but for whatever reason have to go back to the island, or maybe Claire boards the copter without the baby and Locke blows it out of the air. OTOH, Kate seemed pretty sure she wasn’t pregnant. OTOOH, maybe she’s just conning Sawyer. And there was that bit about the island and male fertility. . . .
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IMO that is not even a possibility. The big reveal is that Aaron is now Kate’s baby and something happened to Claire. Nothing else makes sense.
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Agreed. Whether or not that is Claire’s Aaron (and I definitely think it is), we are supposed to think it is.