I can see it now:
"My name is Johnson…
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!
Johnson"
I can see it now:
"My name is Johnson…
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!
Johnson"
Oh. Crap.
The Ol’ double flash forward/flash back.
So I guess I was right. That was 2000.
I thought something was up when Sun got upset about her ring. That was harsh.
Little devious, that flash-forward / flash-back gimmick with Sun and Jin, making us think he was still alive. The date on the headstone was 9/22/2004 for his death so apparently Jin dies on-island and they pretend he died in the crash as part of the cover story Kate and Jack tell in the courtroom scene from earlier this season.
Or he has to stay behind and is really still on the island? Please, don’t kill off Jin.
Also that flash forward/flash back was evil. I was an eensy bit suspicious of why his cell phone was so old fashioned looking but I didn’t want to suspect that something happens to him in the future.
Oh man. They had me fooled. Suckered me in good with the Jin / Sun story. And I’m so dumb I sat for awhile wondering why they faked Jin’s death. Only then did I realize that the Jin story was a flashback. Sheesh. I’m an idiot.
And I still despise Michael. I’m disappointed he’s Ben’s man on the boat. I was hoping you all were wrong.
Am I missing someone? I thought we were going to find out who the last of the Oceanic 6 were. So far I have:
Jack
Hurley
Kate
Sayid
Sun
Who’s the sixth?
Oh man, that was *sad. *
Also, I would kick Juliet in the crotch if I could. I hate her. Nothing her character could ever do in the future could redeem her in my eyes. I hate the look she always has on her face. I hate her teeth.
In other sad news, I accidentally sat on the remote control and changed the channel, then panicked when trying to change it back to Lost. The last bit I saw was when the boat guy pulled out the black box to show Sayid and said it was the box from their flight. By the time I got the remote control straightened out, the scene was wrapping up and the boat guy was saying something about Ben. Anyone care to repeat the gist of the conversation? I’m assuming it was something along the lines of “If your plane crashed on the island, how come we have your black box?”
Aaron.
I had a feeling something was up because the previews had mentioned we find out the last of the Oceanic Six, which both Jin & Sun would have made 7, but then I thought maybe they aren’t counting Aaron. I didn’t suspect the flashback switcheroo though!
I think Jin is still alive, but Sun had to leave him behind on the island.
Do you guys think the captain knows the story about Desmond?
sigh, :smack:
I just got that it was a flashback plus flashforward now, and spent the last two minutes of the episode spluttering “but–what–Jin was alive two seconds ago–is he–I don’t–”
Tricksy writers, precious.
Side note: I had to clear up the kitchen / talk to my dad, so I missed about two or three minutes after the note slipped through the hatch of the freighter door. Did I miss anything important?
And I get that Juliet was trying to help Sun, but man, she deserved that slap.
The captain knows who Sayid and Desmond are and knows that Desmond knows Widmore.
He shows them the black box and says it was recovered from the Sunda (?) trench from the wreckage of flight 815. He then says that obviously the wreckage is a fake since Sayid is standing in front of him. He points out that whoever faked the crash also somehow found 324 bodies to put in the fake crash (not to mention the obvious cost). He ends by saying that, given what Widmore has already done, that it is obvious why they have to get Ben.
It struck me at this point that this is why the freighter people are so reluctant to discuss rescuing the survivors. If the survivors suddenly turn up then it is obvious that the crash was faked and, given the effort that Widmore put into faking it, it is also obvious that he won’t want his deception to be revealed. Given how ruthless they have portrayed Widmore as being, I’m surprised that even the 6 made it off.
Also, anyone have any idea why Regina killed herself? She was obviously upset about something when Frank talked to her. Was she upset over Minkowski’s death?
What went on the first evening on the boat? The other crewman says something to Frank like “are you going to be there?” and Frank said he would be up later. What was that about?
And who did the bloodstain on the wall of the cabin that Eckley was giving to Sayid and Desmond come from. What happened there?
No, no, no.
The Captain was telling them that the wreckage was found and that all 324 bodies were on board. He says that Widmore went through great expense to acquire the black box. But he says that they should consider the influence and cost it would take to fake that crash and that it explains why they want Ben so bad. Was clear to me that this meant Ben and his people were responsible for faking the wreckage.
No idea why she killed herself but the captain said that she and others of the crew were having severe “cabin fever”. The earlier image of her holding the book upside down probably was meant to indicate that she was pretty much insane. No idea if this means she had similar symptoms to Minkowski or if she had some other malady.
Well, in the tent at the end Jin says something along the lines of “he’ll do anything” to get her and the baby off the island. Along with an “I promise”. Seems like a pretty heavy handed bit of foreshadowing considering it immediately cut to Jin’s grave site. Of course that could mean he sacrifices his chance to get off the island for them, but that seems less likely.
Wait a minute - I thought the captain was implying that Ben faked the crash and provided the dead bodies, not that Widmore did.
I’d trust that Captain before I’d trust Michael, by the way.
I like that Rose is staying away from Locke because he’s a Kurtz-like maniac.
Given the age of Sun’s baby, the Oceanic 6 get away from Devil’s Island fairly soon, don’t they?
and if Desmond isn’t considered one of the Oceanic 6, then does that mean he doesn’t go back home? That would be tragic.
Thanks to tanstaafl and Omni for the recaps. I agree that the point about Ben makes it sound like Ben is responsible for the fake crash (or that the boat guy wants Sayid to believe that, or whatever).
That would be awesome if that happened!
I wondered why Jin had such an old looking cell phone :smack:
Agreed about Michael.
Well, don’t forget he wasn’t on the plane originally, so he wouldn’t be considered an Oceanic survivor…
Of course, the shadowy types who run the Dharma Initiative, plus Papa Widmore, will probably not be happy to see him. Time traveling may help with that.