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We’ve seen this before, so I’m going with CFL not being dead. The people who shot her will not verify that she is actually dead, and she will be involved in some way in rescuing Alex later on.
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I think you’re right, they take great care in showing Carl’s wounds clearly, but then it’s not clear at all where Rousseau is hit.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Also, I’m not so sure that it was the Freighter Folk who were doing the shooting. They were using machine guns on the ship, and these shots didn’t seem like they were coming from machine guns.
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It’s pretty well established that there are some big ballistic blunders (BBB’s? :)) in this scene already, so I have a hard time determining who was doing the shooting based solely on what guns they were using. That’s why I think Ben’s actions, Alex’s reaction, and the foreshadowing scenes on the freighter deck all point strongly to Widmore’s hired guns. Who do you think it was if not them – the Others, or the unknown third organization?
[QUOTE=Paul The Younger]
It’s pretty well established that there are some big ballistic blunders (BBB’s? :)) in this scene already, so I have a hard time determining who was doing the shooting based solely on what guns they were using. That’s why I think Ben’s actions, Alex’s reaction, and the foreshadowing scenes on the freighter deck all point strongly to Widmore’s hired guns. Who do you think it was if not them – the Others, or the unknown third organization?
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I don’t know. I just don’t see a strong case for it being the Freighter People. I think The Others tend to follow their leader’s orders about killing people, and Carl had clearly deserted to join the Losties. CFL would be collateral damage. Maybe this was just Ben’s way of getting Alex back with his group. He may have plans to brainwash her, or who knows what.
I also don’t think the Freighter Folk would know to shoot only CFL and Carl. They wouldn’t know that Alex was Ben’s “daughter”. They probably don’t much about The Others, since they were the hostiles and no telling how long it has been since there was any communication with Dharma people on the mainland. Assuming that Widmore actually has some connection with the Dharma people.
Well, they do know there are people on the Island other than the 815 survivors. They were looking for Ben after all and presumably knew there were people there with him.
Also, when Frank realized that Juliet wasn’t one of the survivors he called the Miles and Daniel over and referred to her as one of the “natives”, so they weren’t surprised that there were people there.
ETA: FWIW, I think it is just as likely to be Ben’s people as the freighter people who shot Karl and Danielle. I can’t make a good case for one over the other right now.
[QUOTE=middleman]
Did anyone else get a Monster vibe in the final scene? Maybe that was what one poster was talking about ('eerie feeling of death") before the ambush. I swore I heard the telltale mechanical sounds, and then we see the bushes rustle all over. Bright and sunny. Felt like monster time. Then the bullets sound very muffled (silenced bullets are a real alternative possibility).
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I definitely did. There was that quick scene of the jungle (I think between Carl and Danielle getting shot) which I thought was definitely the monster at the time.
I like the idea that the island is preventing Jack from committing suicide in the flashforward as well. Maybe it’s working on Sayid too; you’d make a pretty good assassin if you’re impossible to kill. You could get shot by a hundred blondes, no problem.
Although, I have to say that I didn’t think this was a great episode overall. It felt like the writing wasn’t very tight in a few places, but I might have really been looking for that since this is the last pre-strike episode. There were a couple exposition fairy moments, like Sawyer’s “Michael? You mean the Michael who was kind of cool in Season 1 but then went all traitor and shot us up in Season 2, that Michael?”.
[QUOTE=borschevsky]
JThere were a couple exposition fairy moments, like Sawyer’s “Michael? You mean the Michael who was kind of cool in Season 1 but then went all traitor and shot us up in Season 2, that Michael?”.
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As far exposition goes, I think that was fairly natural sounding.
Did anyone else notice the split second “Mole” ads during at least 2 commercial breaks? They were literally less than one second of a screen showing the logo for that show that was on a few years ago called “The Mole”, consisting of a green fingerprint and the words “the mole.” The first time I saw it, I thought it was just a tv glitch. But then the next commercial, it was there again. It’s on right before “Lost” starts up again. I am trying to figure out if that show is coming back and they know people watching Lost will find subliminal split second ads, or if it was a mistake or something.
Also, does anyone else remember that Michael was in a car accident in season one as well? Could the dream sequence in the hospital actually be a flashback to his recovery from that accident? Libby mentioned once that she trained in medicine for a while before becoming a therapist to Hurley once. Just thinking that maybe Libby really was a spy or a plant after all - I remember that being a theory some people had way back when. Could she have been a nurse in the hospital then, making it an actual flashback and not just a guilty dream?
[QUOTE=Velma]
Did anyone else notice the split second “Mole” ads during at least 2 commercial breaks? They were literally less than one second of a screen showing the logo for that show that was on a few years ago called “The Mole”, consisting of a green fingerprint and the words “the mole.” The first time I saw it, I thought it was just a tv glitch. But then the next commercial, it was there again. It’s on right before “Lost” starts up again. I am trying to figure out if that show is coming back and they know people watching Lost will find subliminal split second ads, or if it was a mistake or something.
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I’d heard that The Mole was being brought back, so it wouldn’t surprise me that they ran the 1-second ads during Lost. Here’s a link.
[QUOTE=Velma]
Also, does anyone else remember that Michael was in a car accident in season one as well? Could the dream sequence in the hospital actually be a flashback to his recovery from that accident? Libby mentioned once that she trained in medicine for a while before becoming a therapist to Hurley once. Just thinking that maybe Libby really was a spy or a plant after all - I remember that being a theory some people had way back when. Could she have been a nurse in the hospital then, making it an actual flashback and not just a guilty dream?
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The first car accident was a real accident, and he wouldn’t have had a note pinned to his chest. I think you’re making it more complicated than it has to be. He has a very good reason to dream of Libby (besides the fact that she’s hot).
[QUOTE=HelloNinja]
I’d heard that The Mole was being brought back, so it wouldn’t surprise me that they ran the 1-second ads during Lost. Here’s a link.
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I saw it as well. I’m so excited about the return of the Mole!
[QUOTE=John Mace]
The first car accident was a real accident, and he wouldn’t have had a note pinned to his chest. I think you’re making it more complicated than it has to be. He has a very good reason to dream of Libby (besides the fact that she’s hot).
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I don’t mean that the whole accident was the flashback, just the few seconds with Libby coming into the room. Maybe being in the hospital recovering from a car accident brought up his memories of the first accident he was in. The only reason I think so, is that she mentioned “I used to work in the medical field” or something like that to Hurley, and also the medical equipment in that scene seems a few years older. But you’re right I could be making things more complicated than they have to be. But that seems to be the theme of this show It makes you question everything!
[QUOTE=Velma]
I don’t mean that the whole accident was the flashback, just the few seconds with Libby coming into the room. Maybe being in the hospital recovering from a car accident brought up his memories of the first accident he was in. The only reason I think so, is that she mentioned “I used to work in the medical field” or something like that to Hurley, and also the medical equipment in that scene seems a few years older. But you’re right I could be making things more complicated than they have to be. But that seems to be the theme of this show It makes you question everything!
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She was a shrink, not an orderly, though.
I think it was just guilt. He did imagine her later on the boat. I’ll grant that it could be some Walt/Christian Shepherd vision, but I don’t think it was a flashback within a flashback.
It makes you question everything!