Oh, and for you “Order of the Stick” fans:
Because Locke told him he needed to. That ordinarily wouldn’t sway Jack, but Locke also said he’d move the island, and as reluctant as Jack was to admit it, he was right about that. So Jack figures he’s also right about the need to lie.
I had a tribute/roast for a co-worker, so I wasn’t able to watch live either. Wore my black LOST t-shirt with a sportcoat in protest. 
I think besides being in touch with the dead, Miles can read past lives.
No close cap help on that one…just labelled “whispering”.
Don’t see why Ben would want to harm Penny. Penny had nothing to do with the mercenaries. She and Desmond need to stay hidden because of her father, he’s the one who wants all the information about the island and Ben.
Re why they had to lie, Whidmore is willing to do anything to get to Ben and the island and these 5 are the only ones with info. Remember that the soldiers were shocked to discover them there, didn’t know who they were. So at this point with everyone he sent searching being dead he has no reason to connect the crash with the island.
Do you think that Christian telling Michael that he had permission to go meant Michael could now die?
Kate was sleeping alone when she had her dream. So who was she talking about when she told Jack, “He expects me back.”? Can’t remember the exact quote, but the implication was that she had a SO she had to get back to.
Yes.
Well, he vowed to kill her when Widmore’s man killed Alex.
She was probably talking about Aaron.
Ben has already said he plans to kill Penny.
Widmore is the one who faked the wreckage.
Yes.
She meant Aaron.
Ok. So they can’t disconnect the battery because. . . boom, but they can cut off the current by freezing it? Hmmmm.
And by the way In one of the more recent podcasts the producers said the code word for the suprise in this episode was “frozen donkey wheel.” They pointed out that that’s just a secret thing to call it so they didn’t have to reveal too much to anybody. As lostpedia points out, this time it was a literal description of the surprise.
Pretty much everything on tv or in movies does this. It’s extremely annoying. Guns have to make noises whenever they’re pointed apparently…
Sound guys in general seem clueless for guns. In some movies, to indicate that an automatic weapon is empty, you hear rapid clicking as if the hammer were falling 600 times per minute. Propelled by an electric motor apparently.
The “we have to lie to protect them” doesn’t make sense really. The people who would put them in danger know about the island and aren’t going to buy the lie, so how does it protect them? It makes sense in terms of self preservation perhaps (“Widmore won’t have us killed if we can shut up”), but the “doing it for them” thing is illogical.
Oh, and I cranked up the sound and listened to Sawyer’s whispers on monitor headphones - it’s not meant to be intelligible.
I think Ben has plans the way centaurs do divination. He BSes his way through each situation as it comes up. When something happens to go his way, he says, “It was all part of my plan.”
Did anyone capture the web site address mentioned in the “commercial”? I think it was the first clue in another lost off-season internet scavenger hunt. The commercial was recruiting for a number of unpaid positions and was www dot golden octagon something-or-other dot com. I think.
I was wondering – did they say anything about motion detectors? Otherwise, could they have very carefully lifted/shifted bits to get a blanket under the whole mess? Haul it topside, dump it in the ocean, sail off a bit and let it explode when and as it pleased.
I agree that the overall “lie to protect the others” makes absolutely zero sense. Widmore knows their story is a lie, and I can’t believe there won’t be at least one loose lipped crewman on Penny’s boat, especially if he waves a few hundred thousand in their faces as incentive. If nothing else, the coincidence of Desmond reappearing after three years at the same time as the Oceanic Six should be suspicious.
And as for ‘outsiders’, shouldn’t the whole story have unraveled almost immediately? Why weren’t there eight (?) bodies missing from the sunken plane? Wouldn’t some aspiring newsie have talked his publisher/network into funding an expedition to whatever island it was they supposedly passed 100 days on? A little suspicious when they can’t find any traces of anyone there.
BTW, I wonder what the rules are for where the island can be moved. Having it suddenly appear in, oh, New York Harbor would make it a bit hard to keep secret. 
Many thanks!
I goofed around on there a bit last night and couldn’t figure out how to get anywhere. I’ll probably just wait for the spoiler sites to share their findings.
I coulda swore I heard ‘daughter’ in there.