Also, in regard to Charlotte’s parentage, it was said she was born in “Essex, England to parents David and Jeannette and was raised in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England along with two younger sisters.”
Of course, the source was Ben…
ETA: Her parents could also be the DeGroots.
I haven’t seen that episode since it first aired, but I believe the woman asked him why he was crying, and all he said was, “I don’t know.”
I like the theory. My only big question is why the BSM needs to get others to recruit for it. From what we’ve seen, it seems to be pretty much totally unstoppable.
Why go through the trouble when you can just grab them and drag them in?
-Joe
I don’t think it needs others to recruit for it, as much as that the Smoke Monster and the Others are on the same mission of recruitment and protection of the Island.
As far as the armless guy goes, he could also have been dead at that point as someone above mentioned and it was the Smoke Monster itself using his voice to lure more people in.
But, will she stay dead?
So I want to know how close the Orchid is to the Swan. Because it was the Orchid station that Ben used to access the Icy Wheel of Death to move the island last season, and of course, John went down the well at the Orchid this time. (By the way, he didn’t have to climb down – just wait for the next flash or two, and maybe the Orchid would be back, yeah?)
BUT, it was the emergency at the Swan at the start of this season where Dr. Cheng/Candle/Wickman/Waxhead/Tallowbottom was called to, and they had the x-ray/sonogram/whatsitthingy that showed the frozen wheel behind the wall. So if the wheel is below the Orchid, why is it showing up behind the wall at the Swan when the Dharmites are trying to drill through the undrillable rock?
French dude getting his arm ripped off was pretty freaky! Sweeeet.
I liked that they showed us the final showdown between Danielle and Robert. And making it fit in with the first time Danielle told that story to Sayid (Robert’s gun having no ammo, just like Danielle did to the gun that Sayid grabbed).
Yep! Now it appears we know the origin of the Defcon Penguin glyph. 
No, the emergency was at the unfinished Orchid station.
The emergency was at the Orchid:
This was at the Orchid. Edit: Nice. Third reply!
Almost–she pulled the firing pins in both guns. Good observation though.
I think this was a theory from as early as the first season. And the creators have said (in a podcast or some such) that they are not in Purgatory. Although… the author of the real novel that came out, called “Evil Twin”, presumably who died in the Oceanic 815 crash, later retro-fitted to be the guy who got sucked into the engine in the first episode, was “Gary Troup”. Anagram of Purgatory.
It imploded. Big scorched and blackened hole in the ground.
The Dharmites were obviously hippies. They drove a hippie van, lived essentially in a commune. They were probably stoned when they came up with the names.
The numbers broadcast was what drew the Frenchies towards the island, where they crashed in the storm, in the first place – if I recall one of Danielle’s stories from an earlier season correctly. It was broadcasting from the radio tower until Danielle replaced it with her own looped emergency call.
I wouldn’t think that Charlotte’s death would make him re-think it. I’d say that Charlotte’s death reinforces this theory. When she realized that Daniel was the crazy man who, in her youth, told her to leave the island and never come back, because she would die if she did, she was scared shitless. I’d say the reason she was so scared was that she just realized she was going to die – because the only reason time-jumping Daniel would give her that warning as a little girl was that he’d seen her die as an adult. The loop just came full circle. Daniel apparently later will try to warn her anyways, hoping to change the course of events – but he hasn’t changed the course of events.
Unless something happens in a future episode to negate her death.
Thanks – I mis-remembered.
Thanks – I was close. Mis-remembered this one too, but only in this particular detail. I remembered that her original telling of this came from the Sayid episode, when we first met her.
Well, I don’t think Eloise is going to send those few back now – just start explaining a few things, maybe?
And we still have yet to see how Locke really fits into this, because apparently his “death” is the thing that first convinces Jack that “We have to go back!” We haven’t yet seen the part where he starts going by codename Jeremy Bentham.
And I wonder when the conflict involving Penny going with Desmond will show up. Obviously, Charles Widmore didn’t want her going with Des to L.A., because that’s where Ben is. And we know Ben wants to kill Penny to hurt Widmore, as revenge for Alex.
Speaking of Ben – I loved his little slam-on-the-brakes-and-be-indignant act! After Jack says that if Ben is lying about Jin, Jack will kill Ben himself… Ben ranting about “do you know how much I’ve been doing to keep you people safe!!!” Hahahah! After all the lies and manipulation you’ve put them through, and you’re surprised they don’t trust you? That was amusing. The rant was probably just another part of the manipulation.
Nice point. And I notice that they actually did that last week after Jack got done talking to Claire’s mom, then came back to the car and told Kate, “It isn’t her trying to take Aaron. She’s here to collect an Oceanic settlement. She doesn’t know that Aaron exists.”
Kate: “If it isn’t her trying to take Aaron… then who?”
::: shot cuts to Ben, in vehicle with Sayid :::
Camera jump being a little foreshadow, before they actually pull into the garage and we find out that the asswipe-lawyer is Ben’s lawyer.
I think they had all the crazy names to keep the various stations secret from each other. So someone working at The Flame doesn’t know that the Orchid is anymore than a greenhouse.
So did anybody see this article/synopsis, from Jeff Jensen on EW?
Contains an interesting theory on why the O6 have to get back to the island – see pages 4-5. Check it out.
I’m definitely enjoying the show, and really enjoying the new season, but I have to point something out as being one of Lost’s lingering annoyances. Please indulge my fantasy scenemaking:
Ben: “It’ll take thirty minutes minutes to get there.”
Sun: “Let’s go.”
<Everybody gets in the van. Ben drives.>
Jack: “Okay, so, this drive will be thirty minutes?”
Ben: “Twenty-nine minutes now, Jack.”
Jack: “Fine. Whatever. A fair amount of time. We could stare out the window on the way, or we could… talk.”
Ben: “What should we talk about, Jack?”
Jack: “Oh, I don’t know. The weather. High school football. Maybe WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.”
Ben: <pause> “…It’s complicated.”
Jack: “It can’t be THAT complicated. We have half an hour to kill. Half an hour. If you start talking now, I bet you can give us a pretty good summary in half an hour. What the hell else are we going to talk about?”
Ben: “You really want to know?”
Jack: “Sun, what do you think?”
Sun: “Actually, I think we should bicker instead, and then finish the trip in uncomfortable silence.”
Jack: “Mmm, all right, sounds good.”
Everyone’s always castigating the “it’s complicated” thing, but IIRC, the characters on Lost seldom if ever actually say “it’s complicated.” What they do say frequently is “there’s no time to explain, we have to keep moving,” or some variation thereof. Which, in a way, is worse, because it even more directly implies what you’ve described: that for some reason we should accept that it’s impossible to drive down the street or walk through the jungle and talk at the same time.
I think everyone has realized that it’s pointless to ask Ben questions, because you have no idea if he’s telling the truth.
I think everyone has realized that it’s pointless to ask anyone on Lost questions, because instead of answering the question, they respond with another question, change the subject, reply “there’s no time to explain” or “that’s not important right now,” or are interrupted by a sudden thunderstorm or by someone crashing out of the jungle to deliver shocking news.
Would anyone prefer that Ben/Faraday/Jack/Locke give an expository answer that will kill suspense and/or any drama that’s going to unfold? I’m willing to suspend disbelief for better storytelling. At least the writers bother to have the characters ask some of the right questions…
Better storytelling would involve its being plausible that no one has been able to ask the right people the right questions at the right time yet.
-FrL-