LOST 6.14 "The Candidate"

[Mahaloth]

@FlightlessBird

Did anyone catch Sayid’s last line?
Sayid: <Stuff about Desmond>
Jack: Why are you telling me this?
Sayid: Because it’s gonna be you, Jack.

Is this the dialogue for sure? Anyone else catch this? I thought it was “It’s gotta be you, Jack.”

[phungi]

@silenus

If I ever meet the producers, I’m going to punch them in the nose. Nobody makes my wife cry and gets away with it.

I was good with the first sentence alone…

[Skott]

@Mahaloth

Is this the dialogue for sure? Anyone else catch this? I thought it was “It’s gotta be you, Jack.”

Just watched that bit.

Sayid: Listen carefully: There’s a well on the main island half a mile south of the camp we just left. Desmond’s inside it. Locke wants him dead… which means you’re going to need him, do you understand me?
Jack: And why are you tell me this?
Sayid: <beat> Because it’s going to be you Jack.

The “going” is pronounced in a single syllable, kinda like “goin”. But the line goes so fast, it could just as easily be “Because it’s good to be you Jack.”

Interesting that the producers didn’t mention Frank among those they killed off last night.

[JerseyMarine2092]

@Skott

But there is a runway. They’d mentioned having to turn the plane around first. They also said they’d have to repair it, since the windshield was broken. Not sure how they were going to do that, especially if the plan was for them to sneak on and take off without Widmore noticing.

Still curious who ordered the runway built…

Well that Lostpedia article does say that the Producers said it was Jacob in one of the podcasts last year.

[Winston_Bongo]

@FlightlessBird

Did anyone catch Sayid’s last line?
Sayid: <Stuff about Desmond>
Jack: Why are you telling me this?
Sayid: Because it’s gonna be you, Jack.

Maybe I got it wrong, but it seems like non-zombie-Sayid may have some insight here.

I also heard it as “It’s going to be you, Jack” and interpreted that (plus the episode title) to be confirmation that Jack is indeed the final candidate to be the New Jacob. I think his actions at the end of the episode were a confirmation of this: he’s the only one who is beginning to intuitively understand the “rules” of the Island, and more importantly, he had the faith to be willing to let that timer run down to zero. (Kind of like when Indiana Jones took the “leap of faith” onto that invisible walkway in The Last Crusade.) It was a final test to see if Jack was worthy of being Jacob 2.0, and he passed. Sawyer, on the other hand, flunked out big time.

At least that’s how I interpreted that whole sequence.

[RainGrowsBrite]

All I know is that I was in shock about Sun and Jin until Hurley started crying on the beach. I just balled after that. Hurley hurting is just the worst.

[Morbo]

@borschevsky

I’m trying to remember now - when did he take the watch? It was before he got on the plane, right? So why did he take the watch prior to finding the bomb? Did he know that the bomb would be there?

Yes, he grabbed the watch before he even walked into the plane. So he knew the explosives would be there and that he needed a timer. I’m positive they will explain how he knew.

Positive. ::nervous laugh::

[cmkeller]

Dogzilla:

Except that women weren’t rendered sterile. Plenty got pregnant. Remember Juliet explaining that somewhere just before the third trimester, there was something about an immune system response and the women all died? Juliet wouldn’t have ever been recruited to the island if the women were sterile and couldn’t get pregnant at all. Note, there was nothing about stillbirths or miscarriages; the potential moms died before giving birth, which was why it was so important to get Sun off the island.

OK, then, not sterility. Some radiation-caused uterine disease. Maybe some form of cancer?

Or maybe I’m totally off-base, and the producers never meant for “The Incident” to be the explanation for the pregnant women problem at all.

[Merijeek]

@Morbo

Yes, he grabbed the watch before he even walked into the plane. So he knew the explosives would be there and that he needed a timer. I’m positive they will explain how he knew.

Positive. ::nervous laugh::

It was a very clumsy trap. There was also no reason for Widmore to keep guards there to die “to keep up appearances”…right after he had moved the pylons away from keeping smokey from the plane.

There’s a huge hole here, and I’m relatively confident that when we learn the true motives between Widmore and Smokey it’ll become clearer.

-Joe

[OpalCat]

@RainGrowsBrite

All I know is that I was in shock about Sun and Jin until Hurley started crying on the beach. I just **balled **after that. Hurley hurting is just the worst.

Well that’s an odd reaction! :eek: Now, bawling, I could undertsand…

[Icarus]

Didn’t there used to be a guy named ‘Ben’ in this show? He seemed pretty important for a while.

[Shoeless]

@Winston_Bongo

I also heard it as “It’s going to be you, Jack” and interpreted that (plus the episode title) to be confirmation that Jack is indeed the final candidate to be the New Jacob.

I can see the last scene in the series finale: Jack is appointed to be the New Jacob and looks over to see ghost [del]Obi Wan[/del] Jacob and ghost [del]Anakin[/del] Christian and ghost [del]Yoda[/del] Sayid smiling and waving at him.

Maybe one last “Dude…” from Hurley.

Then fade to black.

[Merijeek]

@Icarus

Didn’t there used to be a guy named ‘Ben’ in this show? He seemed pretty important for a while.

I expect that he and his companions will be bumping into the waterlogged survivors any minute now.

I knoW everyone thinks that either Hurley or Jack is going to be the new Jacob. I almost wonder if it isn’t going to be Ben. He seems to be pretty repentant. I wonder if he will volunteer to be the Corkblocker for the sake of keeping Smokey on the island.

-Joe

[Dogzilla]

@cmkeller

OK, then, not sterility. Some radiation-caused uterine disease. Maybe some form of cancer?

Or maybe I’m totally off-base, and the producers never meant for “The Incident” to be the explanation for the pregnant women problem at all.

Nope. Not cancer. From Lostpedia:

Soon after she accomplished this miracle, Richard Alpert and Ethan Rom began to recruit her to do some very specific fertility research. Once on the Island, Juliet was directed to resolve the reproductive problems of the Others. She began an affair with Goodwin Stanhope, prompting jealous Ben to have Stanhope killed after the crash of 815. After the first 6 months, Juliet wished to return to her home and family. She wanted to be present when her sister Rachel gave birth. However, Ben prolonged her stay on the island indefinitely by offering to cure Rachel’s cancer if Juliet would stay. Having seen some unusual things on the Island, Juliet believed there was a chance these people might be able to cure cancer, as the Island inhabitants were cancer free, so she stayed for the sake of her sister.

And:

Juliet said she thought the problems occurred at conception, but the only way to be sure would be to take one of the women off the Island.

Then:

After a few days, Sun angrily confronted Juliet and asked her what happened to pregnant women on the Island. Juliet told her they all died, and later that night woke Sun and told her there may still be hope for her. She took her to the Staff, telling Sun the last nine pregnant women she had examined were dead, and she wanted to give someone good news for once. She examined Sun, hoping to find she had conceived off the Island, and was devastated to learn otherwise.

[RainGrowsBrite]

@OpalCat

Well that’s an odd reaction! :eek: Now, bawling, I could undertsand…

Ive been watching too much basketball lately…

[PaperBlob]

Why was the pregnancy/death problem such a big deal for the Others? They had the ability to leave the island via submarine, so why couldn’t they just take the moms-to-be off-island until they gave birth? I can understand wanting to solve the problem medically just because, but why risk the moms’ lives if you don’t have to? Or am I missing/forgetting something here?

ETA: I see from Dogzilla’s post that Juliet thought of this. Was it ever explained why taking moms off the island wasn’t an option? It worked out OK for Sun.

[Dogzilla]

@PaperBlob

ETA: I see from Dogzilla’s post that Juliet thought of this. Was it ever explained why taking moms off the island wasn’t an option? It worked out OK for Sun.

To my knowledge, no, that was never explained.

Still doesn’t make sense to me how some people seemed to be able to come and go as they pleased (Richard Alpert comes to mind), yet pregnant women in danger of dying… not so much.

[Stoid]

Sun & Jin = Really Really Bad. Sucked massively all by itself.

But what also sucked is this: I don’t believe that Sun wouldn’t have said to Jin: “You HAVE to live for OUR DAUGHTER.” Both of them totally forgot the kid.

But back to it sucking all by itself…MAN it sucked.

[StarvingButStrong]

Wasn’t there a prior link between Claire and “Catch a Falling Star”? Like she told Charlie her mother used to sing it to her, or maybe she sung it to Aaron or something? I don’t recall the details, but I’m sure it came up at some point.

[aaelghat]

@StarvingButStrong

Wasn’t there a prior link between Claire and “Catch a Falling Star”? Like she told Charlie her mother used to sing it to her, or maybe she sung it to Aaron or something? I don’t recall the details, but I’m sure it came up at some point.

According to the Tail Section…

“Catch a Falling Star” - This song plays in the music box Christian left Claire. It’s the song he used to sing to her as a child and one Claire asked the baby’s adoptive parents to sing to her son.