Jin walked past Jack in the hallway of the hospital in this episode.
In ATL, who is Jack’s wife?
She’s never been shown.
And it’s not Kate, because she would have been about 12 when Jack’s son was born.
That’s right… I completely forgot.
Presumably Julie Bowen, just like in the original timeline. Remember that he’s divorced in both timelines so it would be inconsistent if he had a different ex-wife in the two timelines.
It’s worth pointing out that Julie Bowen’s new show Modern Family went to shoot on location in Hawaii for the episode that airs this Wednesday, meaning if they wanted to have her appear on Lost in the next couple weeks she just happened to be in the neighborhood.
Except for the fact that he has a son, which is a huge change in this timeline. No reason to think he would have the same wife. And the fact that they’ve yet to even say her name implies it’s someone we know. Big money is on Juliet.
Locke is on good terms with his father, which is a huge change in this timeline. He still had the same wife.
I think the fact that they’ve yet to say her name is because they weren’t sure they could get Julie Bowen.
Can you name a single character who has a different SO in the two timelines? Even Sayid has the same SO despite the fact that she married his brother. Desmond and Penny are drawn to each other regardless of timeline. And Hurley’s crushing on the same mental patient in both timelines.
I just think it would be way out of character and highly inconsistent for the show to all of a sudden give Jack a different ex-wife in the two timelines.
To play devil’s advocate for a minute, did Daniel ever meet Charlotte in the ALT timeline, or was the only time we saw her when she was rummaging through Sawyer’s drawers? And have Claire and Charlie crossed paths?
Well, it wouldn’t be inconsistent for the show to give Jack a different ex-wife if the reason was that the different ex-wife was a big shocking reveal because it’s a character we already know. That would be totally consistent for this show.
Daniel met Charlotte in the ATL, but it was offscreen. He told Desmond about it when they met in Desmond’s episode. I don’t think Charlie has met Claire, but he presumably is looking for her since he had the vision of her on the plane.
My guess is that Jack’s ex-wife is Juliet. It would certainly be in keeping with the style of the show.
Yeah, but she’s really a reptile alien!
Somewhat late to the party, but yeah, that’s how I felt. I was more touched by Hurley crying than anything else in this episode.
I imagine it was fairly easy for Fox, Garcia, and Lilly to summon the emotion to film the beach crying scene. Even at this late date, how tough it must be to find out that even one of the main cast was killed off. Let alone three orginals.
Coupled with the end of an era sort of series, I’ll bet it was an emtional moment in real life.
The producers talk here about some of the points discussed in the thread: why the Losties didn’t react to Lapidus dying, why Jin didn’t leave Sun for their child, etc.
Locke’s dad seemed to be a great guy up until he got the kidney he needed. For all we know, he just hadn’t gotten Locke to sign before the plane crash.
Not going to bother listening to that.
Frank is certainly dead then?
-Joe
Kate’s name was not crossed out in the lighthouse. Jacob is faking out MiB and apparently Widmore
The alt timeline really is wish fulfillment (but be careful what you wish for). We are told outright that for Desmond it’s his desire to be appreciated by Widmore. Hurley doesn’t have the numbers curse and gets Libby. Locke keeps his wife and never has to find out that his father was using him. Jack has a son. Sayid’s lover is still alive. Kate didn’t really kill anyone. Sawyer didn’t go into a life of crime. Claire hasn’t been “spoiled” Charlie is alive. Ben has a good relationship with his father and gets to be a good person.
I think that the alt timeline is what the MiB will offer them. They will have to turn it down to save the world.
Interesting thought. I re-watched this episode last night, and I noticed that Jack seemed to be waking up from a dream when they first switched from Alt-time line to Island time line. Has this happened before? Are the Losties dreaming about the ATL while they are on the Island? Maybe that was just a one-off with Jack.
Man I shouldn’t have listened to that either. They sound like a couple of snivelly, self-indulgent pricks.
It does sound like Frank is dead, unfortunately. They mention that the Losties didn’t mention him because they didn’t have as strong an emotional attachment to him and because no one actually saw him die. Maybe that last statement is a little tongue-in-cheek hint that he’s alive and well and will wash up on the beach in the next episode, but I don’t hold out any real hope for that.
A couple of months ago I posted a theory that is starting to look more and more likely to me - the nuclear bomb created the second timeline, which is the ‘correct’ one. The main timeline we’ve been watching is slowly winding down, and everyone in it is dying, while in the other timeline, they are just starting to gather together.
Where I think this might be going is that as the main timeline starts to collapse, the characters in the alt-timeline will start remembering more and more about the island. Eventually, they’ll merge into one timeline with everyone saved. In other words, the nuclear bomb worked, but the old timeline’s characters still have work to do to see it through to completion.
That’s one way they can kill off the main characters like Sun and Jin, while not really killing them off. I wouldn’t be surprised if we have a scene where the alt-timeline Sun and Jin wake up from a sleep after having ‘nightmares’ about drowning in the sub, and suddenly realize that they have memories of both timelines (like Desmond), and are now fully alt-Sun and Jin and original Sun and Jin.
Cue last scene of the series, where all the characters get together in a big reunion, including Charlie, Libby, and all the other dead Losties who never died in the alt-timeline.
So then the question is, if Jack is the one who has to remain to be the main timeline’s new Jacob, what happens to Alt-Jack? Does he die? Or does he become a Jacob-like character, able to teleport off the island and maybe even between timelines? Maybe alt-Jack will go the other way - instead of ‘remembering’ his other timeline, the Jack in the other timeline will start ‘remembering’ alt-Jack’s memories, and they’ll merge together on the island while the rest die off and become themselves back on the mainland.
Of course, now that I’ve said this, it will all turn out to be laughably wrong.
And in the previous episode, set in the airport en route to Hawaii, her character’s son made a funny comment to her about how cool it would be if their plane wound up crashing on an island “like on Lost”. It was funny both because she’s been on Lost and because her character was freaking out about flying.
Oh wow I just realized who Julie Bowen was. Did not remember her as being on Lost and I’m a fan of both shows!