Yes, I know. Doesn’t make your analysis any less misinterpretative.
I know that too. But I didn’t say anything that would imply me support a mass claim–and yet you say that I was asking for one. That’s a far cry than not being able to mind read.
[quote=MeekoI mean, you really are looking for someone to hang here, aren’t you?[/QUOTE]
I’m looking for a scum to hang.
That’s exactly correct. I didn’t notice the small debate between Chronos and Storyteller, so Chronos looked more suspicious, so I voted for him. Then he pointed it out, so I unvoted. Then Meeko blatantly misinterpreted me, so I voted for him.
Yeah, see, but the important thing is not you or me. It’s everyone else.
If you are in fact spot on in your analysis, and I say ‘I was misrepresented!’, people will vote me for attempting to spin my words in a way they weren’t meant to be spun.
If you were in fact trying to misrepresent me, and I say ‘I was misrepresented!’, people will vote you for attempting to spin my words in a way they weren’t meant to be spun.
Meeko, your analysis of pede’s play came across as highly contrived. Although you had a few good points, some of your conclusions were a huge stretch. Also, pede is saying that if nothing else, you misrepresented his stance regarding mass claiming.
The difficulty of a WoW is to draw a conclusion while keeping things objective. At any stage of the game anyone could have a WoW done against them to support Scumminess or Towniness. Anyone, at any stage.
Having said that, an OMGUS is fairly unprofessional, especially since pede knows how you played last time. His annoyance is justified, but voting based on it is not. That comes across as a little n00bish - the second time toDay - but I don’t want to punish a player for newbie mistakes when his accuser is making equally newbie mistakes.
I think I’ll see how toDay plays out a little more before casting a vote.
Get off the cross, we could use the wood. This game is not all about you or your playstyle. Your alleged case against pedescribe is some of the weakest sauce I’ve ever seen. (He’s too “organized”? Please.) Don’t be surprised that it catches you some flak.
A bandwagon is a flurry of votes that are directed against one specific person, usually with the individual voters saying nothing more than ‘I agree’ or ‘What he said’. These are a sign of laziness, if nothing else, which is a bad thing. Often it’s a result of scum wanting to seal a Townie lynch while keeping their own hands clean. Sometimes it’s a townie’s case on scum that is so convincing and thoughtful that nothing else need be said (or a claimed detective found a scum). Rarely, it’s a coincidence, with everyone just happening to be on the same wavelength.
At least I’m pretty sure that’s correct. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Anyway, I’d say that no, you aren’t on a bandwagon.
The traditional time for a scum to enter a bandwagon is with the third vote, as that’s the tipping point between ‘a few one-off votes’ and ‘prime for lynching’. However, because that’s become such a classic scum tell, many scum deliberately skirt it, by posting a lot of accusatory points but not voting, or voting fourth.
Also, by asking questions like that right out in the open, obviously, you moot the effectiveness of any strategy predicated on the utilization of the answers you receive.
Well, I’m inclined to disregard the current argument between ped and Meeko as more noise than signal. Aside from that, there’s a couple people I’m disinclined to think of as scum, but nobody really pinging as Other.
Except storyteller. Truly, that was an excellent summary, and very helpful. But perchance you took this as an opportunity to simply put on the appearance of helpfulness? A character summary is easily obtainable, both in Cafe Society’s numerous Lost threads, and elsewhere online. The only thing keeping me from thinking this was a scum ploy to gain trust is the fact that it seems you used your own words instead of cutting & pasting.
Ya know, it’s awful convenient that the person saying that the third vote is a scum tell has two votes against them. Just saying ;).
I read pede v meeko as town on town, though I’m slightly concerned that pede (who should know meeko’s style very well and be well past making noob mistakes himself) cast a vote for meeko.
Jimmy, can you elaborate more on why you joined meeko?
I’m inclined to think Jimmy just misworded it. Unless you’re both scum and he meant “get over to the scum board with that question.” How does it impact your feelings toward pede that you are now suspicious of jimmy, who agreed with you?
Telcontar: certainly. My reason for voting pedescribe has nothing to do with joining and everything to do with going on the best available information. pedescribe went after Chronos for a silly reason, which was immediately corrected. I thought that was a strange tempest in a teapot, but I didn’t think it was all that suspicious immediately. Then ped immediately bit back at Meeko, which was the second hypersensitive vote in that short period of time. There’s nothing else going on other than that, so I threw a vote out there.
And no, I didn’t misword anything. My point was that asking in the game thread “When would scum join a bandwagon,” you’re asking the scum the question just as well as you’re asking the town. So if you want to know about bandwagons, go look it up somewhere else, don’t ask in the place where the scum are going to read the answer you get!
By the way, I’m not going to respond to Meeko’s case directly unless another player joins it, as Telcontar did here. This is the kind of bullshit that ruined the other game, in my opinion.
Hey everybody. Sorry I’m so late checking in, had lots of other stuff going on. But I see I was subbed out, so I don’t feel so bad. As I was reading to catch up, I thought I had delayed the start of the day.