Right after your Death, Tel, I Was asking if there was a strictly better doctor than yours. Everyone told me that I was fishing.
Apparently, to ask questions, and to get response with out due process is fishing.
What then, is the ASKING for a name, and getitng that characters Bio before Day 1?
**Fishing. **
Is that, that bad? I think we can all agree that forcing players to watch 5 seasons of LOST in one out of game day is impossible.
Even if we could, we probably would NOT play the character 100% as the show did.
Anyway you slice it , name claiming, at least right now, is a non-starter.
The difference there, Meeko, is that there was no particular benefit to Town knowing about a second Doctor. On the other hand, the name claim could force the scum into lies which could be exposed or else if they think their LOST role is ambiguous enough to claim it is Town, to claim a somewhat-dubious name which could become the focus of suspicion later. (It could also give away all of Town’s power roles. Still, I’m leaning towards a mass name claim, even though it might turn this game into a Lost trivia contest, at which I will be hopeless.)
NETA :
Digger, fly under the radar?! It’s night 0 EVERYONE gets a free pass tonight.
Also, this isn’t a frigging RPG, you don’t need to “roleplay” your character. The names could just give Town some more clues as to who to focus their suspicion on.
Come to think of it, the biggest danger here might be of mislynches of Town players with somewhat ambiguous roles on the show.
Glad to see I am not the only one here.
I would, except nobody’s edited yet. You can tell, because when they do, it says "Last Edited By <name> on <date> at the bottom of the post.
Possibly, to some extent, which is the main argument against it. And fishing, like editing, is allowed, it just isn’t very pro-Town. What we’re discussing here is whether the advantages of a mass claim in possibly finding scum outweigh the disadvantages from fishing. I for one think that, at this point, they do not, but clearly there are other opinions. Note that we’re not starting the mass-claiming yet, just discussing whether to do it.
Oredigger edited post #97.
Ya, I edited. I wanted people to know my post was aimed at Nanook, and it’s the first time I could in a Mafia game.
Ah, didn’t notice that. Anyone going to vote for him based on that?
NETA: Which should not be read as “Can I get a bandwagon started over that?”. If I were going to vote Oredigger for editing, I would have just done so. I don’t personally think that it’s an especially big deal, though it’s still something Town should avoid if possible.
Right. I also was noting a fact, not intending to start a bandwagon. But yeah, don’t edit, townies.
Confirminiminitated.
Well, there are two significant dangers:
1.) Innocent townies will honestly claim their names and, after much wiki and google searching, we will kill them because their characters’ are ambiguous on the show.
2.) The cop will have a very cop-ish name or the doctor will be, say, a doctor, and the mafia will know to kill them.
2 could be a very serious concern, and sadly the people most in a position to know just how serious are required to be very quiet about it. 1…I’m not sure whether that would be an issue.
Weighed against this is the benefit:
1.) The mafia will, likely, need to choose false names (assuming that names reflect natures). These names may duplicate town names, thus revealing them/forcing conflicts.
This comes down to the size of the cast. If this were, say, star trek themed, I’d say that the potential benefit is non-existent; there are too many characters. How big is the cast of Lost? If the mafia do a search for minor/single-appearance/only-true-fans know-their-names characters, how long a list is it? This game currently contains 12-14 real town names (I’d guess). If the total cast were 20 this would be a slam dunk. If the total cast is closer to 40? Different story.
Do we even know that everyone has a name? I recall that in the last game, one of the reasons folks were suspicious of paulwhoisaghost (the first time) was because he was just called “the traveling preacher”.
I keep reading that characters are ambiguous.
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If this is the case, we have the opposite problem just as well.** Scum could claim a name, and then also claim Town / Survivor .
That is to say, A character’s name has no value at all.
We have no way to verify which way (what side) they were put into Mafia.
Further, the Player will put more of the player into the role, than on the show.
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Hopefully we have no recruitment / cult faction.**
I’m going to automatically guess an F4 here.
BUT
Mahaloth : **Will you reveal a player’s role / side upon death? **
Yes.
Checking in to the thread. My 2 cents… well, actually, my 4 cents:
On lynching the lurker: I’m generally against lynching randomly, as because of scum’s lesser (fewer?) numbers, it’s much more likely we’ll hit town. Also, I’m don’t like the notion of lynching the quieter posters, especially early in the game. The whole “should we lynch the lurker” argument gets some talk in every game AFAIS, and it’s safe to assume that scum will avoid the appearance of lurking. It’s more useful to lynch based on the substantiveness of posts.
On mass role claims: Seriously, has one of those ever worked out for town? I’m only being 25% sarcastic here; I really would like to know. In the first instance I experienced, it was a closed game, nobody was town, and everybody lied. It was somewhat useful for other scum clans, but not so much for the Masons (this was the Not-so-Simpletown game).
In the latest game, it was pretty much useless for town. Again, all the scum lied, and one scum did get caught out in his lie, but it came down to one person’s word against another, and the wrong person ended up lynched.
There may have been instances where mass claims were beneficial to town, but I’m inclined to agree with Imaginary Fiend. They won’t necessarily give townies worthwhile info, since the scum can easily lie, but they will certainly give scum extra info. Seems like a very bad idea.
I dunno. I think that there are certain ideas that are anti-town to even suggest them, such as lying about RL difficulties. But even then, that could just be a newbie tell, rather than a scum tell.
So what you are saying is, there are no third parties?
I seriously don’t get why you all are so hung up on editing.
I am opposed to irony. Irony leads to humor. Humor leads to fun. Fun leads to IMPURE THOUGHTS!!!
Wait, the last mafia game was the one about purity :).
I suspect you’ll get an F4 for that question, but he certainly heavily implied no third parties. This is to town’s advantage, though it might imply there are more mafia than would otherwise be the case.
And meeko is hung up on editing because town was hung up on editing last game (his first). personally I don’t worry too much about it, though it is something not to make a habit of.