By that, do you mean that you do not intend to cast a tiebreaking vote?
I’ll admit, there is some part of me that’s curious what will happen.
I think the game is weighing on a lot of us, at this point.
Chronos has the “I was right with Mahaloth, but didnt follow up” case
Diver has the “Scum must have voted for Meeko” case
And Telcontar has the Alanis morrisette Ironic [Scum after agame where he was first NK] case.
So.
I could roll a die. But then, That’s how we lost Scud. :smack:
*Then again, it could have been a lot worse. [At least, on paper, given how ALL roles were used in this game… I’m not to sure. Blocktecting the Cop anyone?]
OK, Meeko, first of all, I presume you’re referring to last game with me, there? Everyone knows exactly what Mahaloth’s role is this game.
Second, you seem to be claiming here that Telcontar is Scum, and yet, you’re not currently voting for him, nor have you voted for him at all toDay.
Third, you shouldn’t be basing a vote on a roll of the die. Surely you have some reason to suspect one of Jimmy or USCDiver over the other? Making random choices is almost always bad, no matter what the choice is.
Fourth, pede didn’t have any reason to believe that blocktecting storyteller would be a bad idea, when he did it. It turned out to be bad, but there’s no way he could have known that in advance.
Incidentally, between your smudge of Telcontar right there, your vote currently on me, and your suggestion that the two of us debate each other, I’m guessing that there’s something about our behaviours that you think is scummy. If this is the case, then you really ought to be explaining to everybody else just what you think that is. There’s absolutely nothing to be gained for anyone by you just sitting there acting all mysterious.
Smudge : No. I simply mean that I voted for someone that I thought was town. [You may recall I explicitly asked for no one else to vote Mahaloth. I think This is the case here, save for the “Do not vote for him” clause.]
Smudge the second: I believe my above post covers how I will NOT be using a die. **I stand by the choice to vig kill the night after I survived both a lynch and claiming a powerful, and truthful role. **The execution, however, could have been better. Random choices are bad, granted, but where do they stand when you have no actionable information?
You got me on pede. Just, If I ever am a roleblocker, in any flavor, I would be shooting off multiple targets. To be fair, I think all power roles are reduced from the paranoia. Perhaps that is why the game is broken.
o.O But, you say nothing of Diver. Directly. You lump him with Jimmy.
Yes. I figure both of you to be Scum. At least I did when I asked you two to debate each other. I wanted you two to go the “Y is Scum” or "Y is Not Scum " route.
Yet, both of you dodged it. Call this a smudge if you must. The option was passed, by both of you.
**Perhaps I am not as forceful as I should be when I know things. **
There is nothing more to my role. I don’t mean to imply that there is. I just find my self in an “in game” situaiton where I (at least for the moment) have marginally more power than my actual power role. [Assuming I change votes, and break the tie, and no one else moves a vote, Is it not a better odds situation for town, than my Vig kill was?]
Yet, I am paralyzed here. There are no two ways about it. I don’t want to tell the game that I am, but, it is deducible. If this is the case, best to be on record with the official cause.
There is no real reason to vote Chronos, except for my past experience. This should not enter into this game, I know. However, I can not shake off what I have gleaned from Crimson. I am not saying that I am being Uber-Meeko here with this play. If the vote tends to coincide with my “Meeko” style play, then I will not go out of my way to interrupt it.
We are at a tie. I frankly would like to see the tie break mechanic.
Further, if I do not move my vote, someone else will have to move theirs. I believe we can obtain information on who moves, and who does not. Scum, if you move, we will catch you. You wouldn’t pass up a free shot at Town here, would you? Diver and Jimmy: If both of you are scum, I am willing to bet we get one of you at dusk. I trust we would get the other in due time. Even if without me. If both of you are Town, well, remember who did not vote for you.
Ironically, I have stated a case against both of you. If I have to make the deciding case on either of you, showing favor on the other, I’m not going to make it. Period.
Part of me does not want to disclose any of this. Yet, the truth can not be shaken. I can disclose all I want, and the facts will not change here. Do I need to fear disclosures like this in the future?
**FTR: I am not moving my vote. **
If I am going to kick myself, it will be for NOT casting the vote on the wrong person. We will have enough townies doing that as it is.
OOG
And not so much as to prove my point, but as a simple FYI statement:
I know I will not change my vote, because I need to go sign final papers on my new Apartment. Also, I need to follow up on a job lead by delivering a resume.
Both of these, with driving, and going to the bank, and lunch will keep me away from the game past Noon or Dusk. [Ok, you know what I mean here.]
And, just because I haven’t said it in a while, not sure if I said it at all this game:
Enjoy the Silence. Words are very, unnecessary, they can only do harm.
[Yes. It gets even more ironic the more I reference the lyric. I know.]
/OOG
I reviewed what I know, and I’ll reason from better logic than reliance on Chronos’s program. (“better logic than” targets “reliance,” not “Chronos.” kthx?)
Meeko is almost certainly Town.
I know I’m Town, but can’t prove it.
The consensus estimate is that two Scum remain.
Therefore, of the other 5 players, 2 are Scum.
Chronos is believed Town on the strength of a possible bread crumb from AllWalker.
Therefore, of the other 4 players, 1 is definitely Scum.
And I can’t figure out who for the life of me.
Since Meeko has declined to break the tie, I’m next in line. My choice is between lynching USCDiver and forcing the tiebreaker.
- At the end of Day 2, I cast a tiebreaker vote, which turned out to be between Town and Town.
- I have no particular reason to think USCDiver is scummier than Jimmy, or vice versa, or compared to Telcontar or cardinal fang.
: Therefore, I am not moving my vote. I have no reason to do so.
OOG: Meeko, good luck with the job lead.
bonk (hits head on 60 second posting timeout)
I’m tempted to unbreak the tie myself at this point, honestly. With town friends like these…
If anyone would like me to address some concern they have about my status, I’d be glad to do so. Let’s see, Chronos is voting for me because his program says so, even though he isn’t voting based on his program. Scuba is voting for me because I didn’t know ShadowFacts was scum until a little too late, even though I explained every step of my confusion and gave reasons for all of my votes, and has not responded at all to my responses to his concerns. Diver is literally voting for no reason at all other than to protect himself.
Well, if nothing else, tomorrow will be a more exciting day than today. I guess I’ll just wait for a coinflip to let me know if I’ll be involved.
tiebreak options:
1.) No one dies.
2.) moderator makes a random selection from those tied.
3.) moderator kills one of the people who voted to make the tie.
4.) moderator gets pissed and TPK.
5.) both players in the tie die.
The closeness of the vote and the commitment of each side makes me think we might actually have a mafia on the ropes. I’ll let someone else weasel.
Sigh.
I never said that I wasn’t voting based on my program, just that I wasn’t voting based entirely on it. I believe that my program is accurate, and therefore I’d be a fool to not take its results into account. But all it does is give five scenarios, and it doesn’t say which of those five is correct. For that, I had to apply other reasoning.
And frankly, you’ve done a pretty poor job of defending yourself. You could have argued that the assumptions behind the program were incorrect, or made a case for one of the scenarios which didn’t include you. Instead, all you’ve done is whine about how unfair it is. Well, I never intended it to be fair: I intended it to find Scum. If the Scum can’t defend against it, that’s grossly unfair, but you know what? I’m fine with that.
God kill me, kill me, kill me.
**Previously on Lost.
Anger reached the boiling point on the island. The Survivors argued, fought, and lost their tempers with one another nearly all Day.
Tensions were so high, they could not even choose who they wanted to kill. So, they didn’t. They had made no decision by the time the sun went down.
Suddenly, and loudly, a horizontal column of smoke blew out of the jungle. It swirled around the Surivors, enveloped Jimmy Chitwood and USCDiver, and dragged them into the jungle with it.
Silence. Everyone held their breath and hung their heads.
Night has NOT begun. You may NOT vote, however. I will inform you if and when Night or another Day begins.
Also, Jimmy Chitwood and USCDiver MAY NOT POST AT ALL UNLESS I SAY SO.
**
If you’d unvoted 90 seconds ago you could have done it yourself 
OK, now, this is interesting. Anyone have any clue what just happened?
**And now on Lost:
**
**A low rumble was heard from the jungle and a sound like the snapping of tree branches was mixed in with it. Suddenly, the column of black smoke surged out of the jungle and whipped around the still stunned crowd of Survivors.
A person shot out of the smoke and thumped on the ground.
Jimmy Chitwood stood up, brushed off some sand and stood there in front of the crowd.
But what happened to USCDiver? A search turned up nothing.
It is now Night. Day Seven will begin at Noon Eastern on Wednesday, July 22.**
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